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AB5 Bill in California: What to do now?
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Movement to repeal AB5 Jan 31

Hey guys,

So I’ve been looking everywhere to see if there has been a movement to repeal this law and I found this FB group. There are so many people in so many different industries who are hurting by this law.

You can share your own stories here and get the most updated news on the issue. Join the movement!

https://www.facebook.com/gr
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Hey guys,

So I’ve been looking everywhere to see if there has been a movement to repeal this law and I found this FB group. There are so many people in so many different industries who are hurting by this law.

You can share your own stories here and get the most updated news on the issue. Join the movement!

https://www.facebook.com/groups/FreelancersAgainstAB5/?ref=share

You can also contact the governor to help this process.

https://govapps.gov.ca.gov/gov40mail/
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Ildiko Santana  Identity Verified
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NCTA’s General Meeting on February 8, 2020, will feature a discussion on AB5 Feb 8

https://ncta.org/questions-about-ab5/ NCTA’s General Meeting on February 8, 2020, will feature a discussion on AB5. The presenter(s) will provide guidance on how attendees can do their part and share reports from colleague meetings with their local lawmakers. The session will also have a Q&A period. More information about the General Meeting and a link to RSVP can be found here. ... See more
https://ncta.org/questions-about-ab5/ NCTA’s General Meeting on February 8, 2020, will feature a discussion on AB5. The presenter(s) will provide guidance on how attendees can do their part and share reports from colleague meetings with their local lawmakers. The session will also have a Q&A period. More information about the General Meeting and a link to RSVP can be found here. https://ncta.org/event/ncta-general-meeting-lets-talk-about-ab5/Collapse


 

ColtFoutzTPT
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Here's a Take on the Law from TransPerfect Feb 8

Glad you brought up this topic. Here's a take from the CEO of TransPerfect, Phil Shawe, published in Crain's New York Business yesterday:

https://www.crainsnewyork.com/op-ed/dont-duplicate-californias-freelance-headache

Shawe makes points about how the law isn't really a fit for translators, since many juggle multiple gigs from mu
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Glad you brought up this topic. Here's a take from the CEO of TransPerfect, Phil Shawe, published in Crain's New York Business yesterday:

https://www.crainsnewyork.com/op-ed/dont-duplicate-californias-freelance-headache

Shawe makes points about how the law isn't really a fit for translators, since many juggle multiple gigs from multiple employers. He also wonders whether it could make the US less competitive than other countries where vendors are located.

What does everyone think?
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So what does this mean for California-based agencies? Mar 9

How does this new law affect agencies in California? Can they hire freelancers outside of California or are they basically now limited to using employees only?

The unfortunate part of all this is that it looks like Uber and Lyft, the companies at the impetus of this new law, are using work-arounds to continue business as usual.

There was a similar unwritten "law" in place nationwide in 1993 when I started translating where in order to show you were an independent contr
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How does this new law affect agencies in California? Can they hire freelancers outside of California or are they basically now limited to using employees only?

The unfortunate part of all this is that it looks like Uber and Lyft, the companies at the impetus of this new law, are using work-arounds to continue business as usual.

There was a similar unwritten "law" in place nationwide in 1993 when I started translating where in order to show you were an independent contractor, you could not work more than 20% for any one agency.

[Edited at 2020-03-09 21:09 GMT]
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Esther Pugh  Identity Verified
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Not misclassified Mar 23

LegalTranslatr2 wrote:

How does this new law affect agencies in California? Can they hire freelancers outside of California or are they basically now limited to using employees only?

The unfortunate part of all this is that it looks like Uber and Lyft, the companies at the impetus of this new law, are using work-arounds to continue business as usual.



[Edited at 2020-03-09 21:09 GMT]



I have one Cali client, and they still work with me. They told me that they're unable to keep their Californian freelancers, due to AB5. Many agencies across the country have also dropped all their Cali freelancers. They are in a dire situation, and many have been without any income since the beginning of this year. However, a similar bill has passed the House (H.R.2474, aka the "Pro Act"). It will not pass the Senate as long as the GOP has a majority there (and it can be vetoed by the president as well), however, it's just a question of time before we all have to deal with this, I am afraid.....the unions are powerful.....

And you are correct. It all started with Uber and Lyft, after the Supreme Court (2018) ruling against a company called Dynamex.

It's a shame that legislators classify us (and other highly educated professionals who are independent contractors by choice) as "gig workers" who need protection. I don't see myself as misclassified.


 
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