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ITALIAN to ENGLISH - Genitivo sassone con possessore plurale in cui uno dei possessori è la 1 p.s.
Thread poster: Fabio Sozza
Fabio Sozza Italy Local time: 16:49 English to Italian + ...
Jun 15, 2019
Hello linguists! Ho un dubbio a cui non trovo risposta. Nel caso del genitivo sassone con possessore plurale in cui uno dei due possessori è la prima persona singolare e cioè il parlante, come si struttura? Ad esempio “loro sono amici di Luca e me / miei e di Luca”
_They’re Luca’s and my friends_? _They’re friends of Luca’s and mine_?
Mi sembrano così cacofoniche come soluzioni...
Perché *friends of ours* non passerebbe il nom... See more
Hello linguists! Ho un dubbio a cui non trovo risposta. Nel caso del genitivo sassone con possessore plurale in cui uno dei due possessori è la prima persona singolare e cioè il parlante, come si struttura? Ad esempio “loro sono amici di Luca e me / miei e di Luca”
_They’re Luca’s and my friends_? _They’re friends of Luca’s and mine_?
Mi sembrano così cacofoniche come soluzioni...
Perché *friends of ours* non passerebbe il nome Luca nel messaggio.. I’m lost! ▲ Collapse
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Tony M France Local time: 16:49 Member French to English + ...
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Hope this helps!
Jun 16, 2019
Once you have the 'of', you don't need the possessive any more, so you could say "They're friends of Luca and myself"; otherwise, "They're Luca and my friends" is OK; just as if you were to say "They're Tom and Jerry's friends".
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Angie Garbarino Local time: 16:49 Member (2003) French to Italian + ...
Jun 16, 2019
[Edited at 2019-06-16 07:05 GMT]
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Elizabeth Tamblin United Kingdom Local time: 15:49 French to English
Joint possessives/compound possessives
Jun 16, 2019
There are a few articles online about this, for example:
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Fabio Sozza Italy Local time: 16:49 English to Italian + ...
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Thank you
Jun 16, 2019
Thank you! You've been of great help.
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Rachel Fell United Kingdom Local time: 15:49 French to English + ...
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Jun 16, 2019
I would say "friends of Luca and me" or "friends of Luca and mine". I would not use "myself" here: for me it is incorrect; I find that "myself" is often used these days in the UK in ways I find incorrect.
[Edited at 2019-06-16 22:44 GMT]
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Michele Fauble United States Local time: 07:49 Member (2006) Norwegian to English + ...
friends of Luca and me
Jun 17, 2019
Rachel Fell wrote:
I would say "friends of Luca and me"...
This is the most natural, and how I grew up saying it.
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