江湖

English translation: charlatan, cheater(s)

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Chinese term or phrase:江湖
English translation:charlatan, cheater(s)
Entered by: Anna Maria Sciacca

07:54 Sep 25, 2008
Chinese to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters
Chinese term or phrase: 江湖
语境:对这种人, 我们通称之为"江湖".

以前有人问过,但用法不一样.
Mark Chen
Local time: 06:35
charlatan, cheater(s)
Explanation:
按照你的解释,意思可能是这样。。。
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Anna Maria Sciacca
Italy
Local time: 00:35
Grading comment
I chose Charlatan because it is of derogatory sense. Thanks all.
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Summary of answers provided
4an artist of survival
Wenjer Leuschel (X)
3 +1charlatan, cheater(s)
Anna Maria Sciacca
4con-artist/con man (plural con men)
Gertrude Tsau
4phony, charlatan
Jingjing Yu (X)
4behavior or persons spiting mundane rules and traditions
Francis Fine


Discussion entries: 3





  

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an artist of survival


Explanation:
也是一种说法。

Wenjer Leuschel (X)
Taiwan
Local time: 06:35
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charlatan, cheater(s)


Explanation:
按照你的解释,意思可能是这样。。。

Anna Maria Sciacca
Italy
Local time: 00:35
Native speaker of: Italian
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
I chose Charlatan because it is of derogatory sense. Thanks all.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Jason Ma: Yeah, flamboyant deceiver who claims expertise, knowledge or power that s/he does not have.
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11 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
con-artist/con man (plural con men)


Explanation:
con-artist/con man (plural con men)
A confidence man, also known as a "con man" or a "con artist," is someone who takes advantage of someone else usually for financial gain using what is known as a confidence trick.( From Wikipedia)
A con man is essentially a salesman -- a remarkably good one -- who excels at making people feel special and understood. A con man validates the victim's desire to believe he has an edge on other people. kottke.org/08/09/how-to-be-a-con-man


Gertrude Tsau
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Local time: 17:35
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phony, charlatan


Explanation:
语境:对这种人, 我们通称之为"江湖".
Mark的注解:没本事,自吹自擂

phony, charlatan似乎比较接近你说的“自吹自擂”,具体要根据语境了。

phony, charlatan是讲大话、华而不实的人;
mountebank, quack是人们常说的跑江湖的人,卖万灵药那种;
con man是我们说的诈骗集团那种人物,大到皮包公司,小到街头套笼子卖金项链的都是con man。

以下是词典注释:

THE RIGHT WORD

There are many different ways to describe a fake, a colloquial term for anyone who knowingly practices deception or misrepresentation.

Someone who sells a special tonic that claims to do everything from curing the common cold to making hair grow on a bald man's head is called a quack, a term that refers to any fraudulent practitioner of medicine or law.

Mountebank sometimes carries implications of quackery, but more often it refers to a self-promoting person who resorts to cheap tricks or undignified efforts to win attention (: political mountebanks).

A charlatan is usually a writer, speaker, preacher, professor, or some other “expert” who tries to conceal his or her lack of skill or knowledge by resorting to pretentious displays (: supposedly a leading authority in his field, he turned out to be nothing but a charlatan).

Someone who tries to pass himself or herself off as someone else is an impostor (: an impostor who bore a close physical resemblance to the king), although this term can also refer to anyone who assumes a title or profession that is not his or her own.

Although all of these deceivers are out to fool people, it is the dissembler who is primarily interested in concealing his or her true motives or evil purpose (: he is a dissembler who weaves a tangled web of lies).


Jingjing Yu (X)
United States
Local time: 18:35
Native speaker of: Native in ChineseChinese, Native in EnglishEnglish
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behavior or persons spiting mundane rules and traditions


Explanation:
Context is all-important here, for "jianghu" has both positive and negative connotations. It could also mean -- besides "con man, dishonest, shady" -- "not bound by usual, normal or traditional (especially, petit bourgeois) values, rules and traditions." Some of these people are sometimes lauded for their self-sacrifice in order to uphold what is considered the highest (beyond the reach of ordinary people) justice, loyalty and morality (yiqi).

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Note added at 7 days (2008-10-03 01:36:55 GMT) Post-grading
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* Jianghu Qi, Here Qi means air, attitude, and style. This phrase is usually mildly derogatory, but not really condemning.

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Note added at 7 days (2008-10-03 01:38:44 GMT) Post-grading
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* Jianghu Qi. Here Qi means air, attitude, style, etc. This phrase is usually mildly derogatory, but not really condemning.

Example sentence(s):
  • "Jianghu Qixia Zhuan," title of a book series highly popular in the 1930s and 40s. The title may be translated into "Robin Hood of China on the Great Rivers and Lakes." The original/basic meaning of jiangu is great rivers and lakes.
  • Zou Jianghu -- literally "Walk the Rivers and Lakes" means "live, work, travel far and wide on the main street and the byways, thus becoming highly sophisticated and shrewd.
Francis Fine
United States
Local time: 15:35
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in ChineseChinese, Native in EnglishEnglish
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