士为知己者死,女为悦己者容。

13:56 Apr 13, 2009
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Chinese term or phrase: 士为知己者死,女为悦己者容。
请教大家如何翻成英文。谢谢。
tianshandun (X)
Canada
Local time: 21:41


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3a valor will die for his best friend, a lady will make-up to appease herself.
karcsy
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Bin Tiede (X)
汉英大辞典
xiaoyanchen

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a valor will die for his best friend, a lady will make-up to appease herself.


Explanation:
my try...
士为知己者死,女为悦己者容。
a valor will die for his best friend, while a lady will make-up to appease herself.

士 could be translated as scholar,knight or warrior, but any one of these should be courageous enough for them not to be afraid of death.

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Note added at 1 hr (2009-04-13 15:46:28 GMT)
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OK, thanks for Bin's correction, here my revised rendition....

a valor will die for his best friend, while a lady will make-up to appease her admirer.

karcsy
Local time: 09:41
Native speaker of: Native in ChineseChinese

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Bin Tiede (X): 女为悦己者容 appease herself, or someone who appreciates her beauty?
1 hr
  ->  Now, I get it. How about "a lady will make-up to appease her admirer"?

neutral  chica nueva: valour = 英勇、勇猛; appease = 使(某人)平息、抚慰、满足 (朗文进阶词典)
2 days 21 hrs
  -> Thanks! valour = 勇士 too.

neutral  Xiaohong Zhou: I also think that "悦己者" means the lady's admirer.
15 days
  -> Thanks!
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Reference information:
悦己者:欣赏自己容貌的人。

Bin Tiede (X)
Germany
Native speaker of: Chinese
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Reference: 汉英大辞典

Reference information:
There is a ready translation in 汉英大辞典 for your reference:

"A gentle man will die for the patron who recognizes his worth, a girl will doll herself up for the man who loves her."

Hope this helps.

xiaoyanchen
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Native speaker of: Native in ChineseChinese

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  Sze Kwan Chan (X): This is correct in meaning, but I don't like the connotations implied by the word: "doll"
3 hrs
agree  chica nueva
2 days 13 hrs
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