疾病的机理和实质.

English translation: 机理指系统;结构(system,mechanism,mode of operation)还是指程序(process/development over time)?

16:09 Jan 26, 2006
Chinese to English translations [PRO]
Medical: Cardiology
Chinese term or phrase: 疾病的机理和实质.
全面而精辟地阐明人体疾病的机理和实质.
kschong
English translation:机理指系统;结构(system,mechanism,mode of operation)还是指程序(process/development over time)?
Explanation:
关于mechanism = 结构 (作用?系统?)而不指程序(= process over time)...

本人认为这的 mechanism 有结构,作用;系统的意思,看阴阳五星相互作用 = mutually-regulating 'mechanism'? = system?

mechanism = 1 the arrangement and action of the parts of a machine 机械装置;机件 eg The clock doesn't go; there's something wrong with the mechanism. 钟不走了;是机件出了毛病.2 something which makes it possible to carry out actions 机构;结构 eg the mechanism of the brain 大脑的结构 (朗文进阶词典)

机构 = mech. mechanism 传动机构 transmission mechanism
机理 = mechanism 腐蚀机理 corrosion mechanism 结晶机理 crystallisation mechanism
(外研社:汉英词典)

Perhaps these '机理 and 实质' have classical Chinese equivalents and have a particular meaning in Chinese medicine...


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机理 = pathogenesis here: 指发病机理?病理机理?
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/520706

also aetiology/etiology?

[PDF] 赫爾辛基宣言( Declaration of Helsinki ) 2000 ...
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... procedures and the understanding of the aetiology and pathogenesis of disease. Even
the best proven prophylactic, diagnostic, and ... procedures and the understanding of
the aetiology and pathogenesis of disease. (Even the best proven prophylactic ...
cyber.e-fpg.com.cn/.../-base4-d2Vi/-base4-Qw~~/ -base48-u666uKivsPKrxailJTIwJTIwpKStXsLCqqm577fTLnBkZg~~ - Supplemental Result - Similar pages



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aetiology = 病原:

生命科学信息网 - [ Translate this page ]题名[中]: 细胞病理学. 题名[英]: Cytopathology. 关键词[中]: 病原/诊断/临床细胞学/ 妇科细胞学/非妇科细胞学. 关键词[英]: Aetiology/Diagnosis/Clinical Cytology/ Gynaecological Cytology/Non-Gynaecological Cytology. 创建者[英文名]: Blackwell ...
www.lifesciences.cn/infor/ SPT--FullRecord.php?ResourceId=11214 - 13k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages
[ More results from www.lifesciences.cn ]


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致病机理 = pathogenesis:

[DOC] 研究方向
File Format: Microsoft Word 2000 - View as HTML
分子病毒学和免疫学, 肝炎病毒的基因复制与致病机理, 袁正宏, [email protected].
(021) 54237669 ... Molecular Virology and Immunology, Gene replication and
pathogenesis of hepatitis virus, Zhenghong Yuan, [email protected]. (021) 54237669 ...
www.gs.fudan.edu.cn/phwork/zdjs/jcys.doc - Similar pages



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按照西方医学'机理和实质'应该叫做 pathology

病理学 = 疾病的病因、 发病机制、病理改变和转归。

医学考研网--考研病理学笔记(一) - [ Translate this page ]绪论病理学(pathology)是一门研究疾病发生发展规律的医学基础学科,揭示疾病的病因、 发病机制、病理改变和转归。 一、病理学的内容和任务病理学教学内容分为总论和各论两部分。 总论主要是研究和阐明存在于各种疾病的共同的病因、发病机制、病理变化及转 ...
www.medkaoyan.net/second/guide/guide4i6i144.html - 41k - 24 Jan 2006 - Cached - Similar pages

按照'阴阳五行'医学把其叫做'mechanism and true/real nature'也行(但没有人懂到底是什么意思...就是说是哲学的话而不是科学的,好的,也许合适...)

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[发病机理? 病理机理? 还是其他('阴阳五行'?)机理?] 这些'机理'是不是该翻译为'stages''progression'?

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mechanics = the mechanics of something = the ways in which something works or is carried out 某事物的运作方法;技巧 eg Now we'll have to work out the mechanics of setting up the scheme. 现在我们得确定制定该方案的运作方法.(朗文进阶词典)

the mechanics (informal) = the way something works or happens eg He knows a lot about the mechanics of running a school. (Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary)

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mechanism 也许是'false friend', used in the sense of 机理 in another European language, not English?? Fr, German, mechanisme?

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I have had this whole discussion before, on another Kudoz question...
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Summary of answers provided
4 +4mechanism and nature of a disease
Ray Luo
3机理指系统;结构(system,mechanism,mode of operation)还是指程序(process/development over time)?
chica nueva


  

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27 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
疾病的机理和实质.
mechanism and nature of a disease


Explanation:
mechanism and nature of a disease

The Mechanism of Disease in Companion Animals

both the chronic nature of the disease and its progression over time

All types of diseases have a direct connection with blood or chi, no matter what the nature of the disease is

mechanisms and nature of genetic variation

Ray Luo
United Kingdom
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Native speaker of: Native in ChineseChinese
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Ralph Dunsdon
27 mins

agree  Twinpens (X)
39 mins

agree  Lu Zou
3 hrs

neutral  chica nueva: should be 'the mechanics of something' (= 某事物的运作方法;技巧), not mechanisms (= 机械装置;机件;机构;结构)(朗文进阶词典)
6 hrs

agree  licullen
15 hrs
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7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
疾病的机理和实质.
机理指系统;结构(system,mechanism,mode of operation)还是指程序(process/development over time)?


Explanation:
关于mechanism = 结构 (作用?系统?)而不指程序(= process over time)...

本人认为这的 mechanism 有结构,作用;系统的意思,看阴阳五星相互作用 = mutually-regulating 'mechanism'? = system?

mechanism = 1 the arrangement and action of the parts of a machine 机械装置;机件 eg The clock doesn't go; there's something wrong with the mechanism. 钟不走了;是机件出了毛病.2 something which makes it possible to carry out actions 机构;结构 eg the mechanism of the brain 大脑的结构 (朗文进阶词典)

机构 = mech. mechanism 传动机构 transmission mechanism
机理 = mechanism 腐蚀机理 corrosion mechanism 结晶机理 crystallisation mechanism
(外研社:汉英词典)

Perhaps these '机理 and 实质' have classical Chinese equivalents and have a particular meaning in Chinese medicine...


--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 7 hrs (2006-01-26 23:23:39 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

机理 = pathogenesis here: 指发病机理?病理机理?
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/520706

also aetiology/etiology?

[PDF] 赫爾辛基宣言( Declaration of Helsinki ) 2000 ...
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
... procedures and the understanding of the aetiology and pathogenesis of disease. Even
the best proven prophylactic, diagnostic, and ... procedures and the understanding of
the aetiology and pathogenesis of disease. (Even the best proven prophylactic ...
cyber.e-fpg.com.cn/.../-base4-d2Vi/-base4-Qw~~/ -base48-u666uKivsPKrxailJTIwJTIwpKStXsLCqqm577fTLnBkZg~~ - Supplemental Result - Similar pages



--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 7 hrs (2006-01-26 23:25:08 GMT)
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aetiology = 病原:

生命科学信息网 - [ Translate this page ]题名[中]: 细胞病理学. 题名[英]: Cytopathology. 关键词[中]: 病原/诊断/临床细胞学/ 妇科细胞学/非妇科细胞学. 关键词[英]: Aetiology/Diagnosis/Clinical Cytology/ Gynaecological Cytology/Non-Gynaecological Cytology. 创建者[英文名]: Blackwell ...
www.lifesciences.cn/infor/ SPT--FullRecord.php?ResourceId=11214 - 13k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages
[ More results from www.lifesciences.cn ]


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Note added at 7 hrs (2006-01-26 23:29:39 GMT)
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致病机理 = pathogenesis:

[DOC] 研究方向
File Format: Microsoft Word 2000 - View as HTML
分子病毒学和免疫学, 肝炎病毒的基因复制与致病机理, 袁正宏, [email protected].
(021) 54237669 ... Molecular Virology and Immunology, Gene replication and
pathogenesis of hepatitis virus, Zhenghong Yuan, [email protected]. (021) 54237669 ...
www.gs.fudan.edu.cn/phwork/zdjs/jcys.doc - Similar pages



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Note added at 7 hrs (2006-01-26 23:48:27 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

按照西方医学'机理和实质'应该叫做 pathology

病理学 = 疾病的病因、 发病机制、病理改变和转归。

医学考研网--考研病理学笔记(一) - [ Translate this page ]绪论病理学(pathology)是一门研究疾病发生发展规律的医学基础学科,揭示疾病的病因、 发病机制、病理改变和转归。 一、病理学的内容和任务病理学教学内容分为总论和各论两部分。 总论主要是研究和阐明存在于各种疾病的共同的病因、发病机制、病理变化及转 ...
www.medkaoyan.net/second/guide/guide4i6i144.html - 41k - 24 Jan 2006 - Cached - Similar pages

按照'阴阳五行'医学把其叫做'mechanism and true/real nature'也行(但没有人懂到底是什么意思...就是说是哲学的话而不是科学的,好的,也许合适...)

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Note added at 12 hrs (2006-01-27 04:56:53 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

[发病机理? 病理机理? 还是其他('阴阳五行'?)机理?] 这些'机理'是不是该翻译为'stages''progression'?

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Note added at 12 hrs (2006-01-27 05:06:40 GMT)
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mechanics = the mechanics of something = the ways in which something works or is carried out 某事物的运作方法;技巧 eg Now we'll have to work out the mechanics of setting up the scheme. 现在我们得确定制定该方案的运作方法.(朗文进阶词典)

the mechanics (informal) = the way something works or happens eg He knows a lot about the mechanics of running a school. (Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary)

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Note added at 13 hrs (2006-01-27 05:12:51 GMT)
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mechanism 也许是'false friend', used in the sense of 机理 in another European language, not English?? Fr, German, mechanisme?

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Note added at 13 hrs (2006-01-27 05:13:27 GMT)
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I have had this whole discussion before, on another Kudoz question...

chica nueva
Local time: 00:45
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4
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