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raspoliticus

English translation: born politician

10:56 Apr 2, 2012
Dutch to English translations [Non-PRO]
Social Sciences - General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters
Dutch term or phrase: raspoliticus
Hij is een totalitaire, machtswellustige raspoliticus.
Tiux
United Kingdom
English translation:born politician
Explanation:
werd geen politicus maar was zo geboren
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freekfluweel
Netherlands
Local time: 22:05
Grading comment
Thanks :)
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +5born politician
freekfluweel
3 +4die-hard politician
Ide Verhelst (X)
4dyed-in-the-wool politician
LouisV (X)
4politician to the core
Monique van Brandenburg
3political thoroughbred
Dave Greatrix
Summary of reference entries provided
some idea of context.
writeaway

  

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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +5
born politician


Explanation:
werd geen politicus maar was zo geboren

freekfluweel
Netherlands
Local time: 22:05
Native speaker of: Native in DutchDutch
PRO pts in category: 12
Grading comment
Thanks :)

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  J. Kampinga
6 mins
  -> Danks!
agree  Alexander Schleber (X): Excellent
6 mins
  -> Danks!
agree  writeaway: the first (and only) thing that comes to mind. as in 'rasecht'. fwiw, there are other options but they get wordier and this is from a newspaper article apparently so searching further is virtually pointless
42 mins
  -> Danks!
agree  David Walker (X)
52 mins
  -> Danks!
agree  Bryan Crumpler: Hrrrmmm... needs something though to disambiguate the term "born", which provokes the question "when" or "where", but rarely "how". Perhaps "natural" as a precursor strengthens this (e.g. "natural born politician"). Otherwise: "politician by nature"
2 hrs
  -> Toch danks anyway!
neutral  Tina Vonhof (X): I think this is too positive - this guy is obviously a b.....d (clear from the other adjectives used).
5 hrs
  -> ga een eind met je mee, maar dergelijke context was niet gegeven bij het beantwoorden van de vraag. Zie verder bij Ide.
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7 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
political thoroughbred


Explanation:
would be one solution

Dave Greatrix
United Kingdom
Local time: 21:05
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 27

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  freekfluweel: mooi gevonden: ras en thoroughbred!
2 mins
neutral  writeaway: would mean the best of the best. not really the right translation here
49 mins
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +4
die-hard politician


Explanation:
"A totalitarian, power-hungry die-hard politician."

Of eerder de "die-hard" vooraan: "a die-hard totalitarian and power-hungry politician".

"born politician" is natuurlijk oké, maar het klinkt m.i. wat te neutraal of te braaf. Wat hier bedoeld wordt, is dat Erdogan een sluwe polititieke vos is die alle politieke watertjes al doorzwommen heeft. Een politicus in hart en nieren, maar dan in de negatieve zin.

Ide Verhelst (X)
Belgium
Local time: 22:05
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in DutchDutch
PRO pts in category: 16

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Tina Vonhof (X): Totally agree re: 'born'. In this case, where the meaning is clearly negative, another more or less negative term is appropriate.
2 hrs
agree  Erik Boers
3 hrs
neutral  freekfluweel: gezien de context wellicht meer adequaat. Dient nog wel te worden opgemerkt dat je een "die hard" WORDT, door veel ervaring opgedaan te hebben. Je wordt niet geboren als "die hard" Bovendien "kleurt" dit je vertaling. Lief/meedogenloos: hij flikt het!
6 hrs
agree  Dr Lofthouse
10 hrs
agree  W Schouten
19 hrs
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14 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
dyed-in-the-wool politician


Explanation:
a slightly stronger and more colloquial expression than 'born'.
The expression "dyed in the wool" refers to a state of steadfastness, especially with respect to one's political, religious or social beliefs.


    Reference: http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/82049
LouisV (X)
Australia
Local time: 06:05
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 19
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23 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
politician to the core


Explanation:
Van Dale & Oxford: tot in de kern, in hart en nieren

Example sentence(s):
  • He's a politician to the core (= in all his attitudes and actions).

    Reference: http://oald8.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/dictionary/core_...
Monique van Brandenburg
Netherlands
Local time: 22:05
Native speaker of: Native in DutchDutch
PRO pts in category: 4
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Reference comments


46 mins
Reference: some idea of context.

Reference information:
Turkse Erdogan lijkt meer op Poetin dan op Khomeini

De Turkse premier Erdogan wordt door de Turkse oppositie niet meer afgeschilderd als een moslimfanaat die van de seculiere staat een tweede Iran wil maken, maar als een totalitaire, machtswellustige raspoliticus à la Poetin die critici de mond snoert.
http://www.de-stek.info/forum2/index.php?topic=9370.0

writeaway
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 34
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