verlengd minderjarige

14:30 Oct 22, 2013
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Dutch to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Insurance
Dutch term or phrase: verlengd minderjarige
This is part of a list of "types of persons" that can be selected in an insurance questionaire.
It seems to be some kind of legal category in Belgium and the Netherlands.
The only thing I have been able to find in English so far is "extended minority".
"extended minor" might also work (and would be more in line with the NL syntax) but does not get any reasonable hits on UK Google.
It appears to refer to a person that is probably not considered mature and may therefore be subject to guardianship.

Any other ideas.
Alexander Schleber (X)
Belgium
Local time: 03:03


Summary of answers provided
4 +1adult in legal guardianship
philgoddard
3extended minority status
Barend van Zadelhoff
3Adult guardianship order as extension of minor (non-adult) status
Terry Costin


Discussion entries: 9





  

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adult in legal guardianship


Explanation:
Your supposition is correct:

Verlengde minderjarigheid, in België, is een juridisch beschermingsstatuut, ingevoerd in 1973, analoog aan handelingsonbekwaamheid voor personen met een verstandelijke handicap waarbij een uitgebleven ontwikkeling van verstand, gevoel en wil is vastgesteld, die niet in staat zijn zichzelf te leiden en hun goederen te beheren.

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A literal translation doesn't work - I don't think its meaning would be clear.


    Reference: http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verlengde_minderjarigheid
philgoddard
United States
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Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 20

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neutral  Terry Costin: Looked into it Phil, this doesn't cover it, it's about the child in transition to adulthood not obtaining the right to (start to) manage own affairs, a guardianship order placed on an adult as extension of non-adult status
1 day 3 hrs
  -> You yourself used the words adult and guardianship, so I don't see why you're disagreeing.

agree  W Schouten
1 day 16 hrs
  -> Thanks.
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extended minority status


Explanation:
I think there is enough support for 'extended minority', an option you yourself suggested.
It seems to be sound English and sufficiently unambiguous.

In this list you might use: 'extended minority status'

The legal provision seems to be specific to Belgium.
In French it is called: mineur prolongé.

However, Belgium also has a policy of “extended minority” for those with severe and profound intellectual disabilities. The decision as to whether to grant extended minority is made by a court of law and on an individual basis. Someone who is considered to need “extended minority” protection is then treated as a minor (under 15) and cannot vote, marry, start a family or manage his/her own affairs in any way)

http://www.kent.ac.uk/tizard/research/DECL_network/documents...

How about "extended minority"?

In Belgian law, there is a legal status of "extended minority", meaning that someone is still officially a child despite being born a sufficient number of years ago that they would otherwise count as an adult (usually used in cases of severe mental handicap).

If only we could have something like that here, for people who aren't ready to be unsupervised when doing things that might affect the public. :-)

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/post/978727


1. Who is not capable to exercise his/her rights?

• a minor who, in the healthcare practitioner’s opinion, is not capable of reasonably assessing his/her best interests;

• an adult who falls under the status of extended minority;

• an adult who has been declared incompetent;

• an adult who, according to the healthcare practitioner, is de facto not capable to express his/her will (e.g. a person who is in a coma).

http://www.health.belgium.be/eportal/Myhealth/Patientrightsa...


The right to vote is suspended in the case of the following:

- those who have had a guardian appointed, those under an extended minority order pursuant to the Act of 29 June 1973 and those held in confinement pursuant to Chapters I to VI of the Act of 9 April 1930 on the Defence of Society against the Abnormal and Habitual Criminals, replaced by Article 1 of the Act of 1 July 1964; the incapacity ceases at the same time as the guardianship or extended minority or simultaneously with the final release of the person concerned;

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/workingpapers/pana/w9/part1_en...

European Countries discussing the themes of legal capacity and guardianship, rights to services and support and access to rights and justice of people with intellectual disabilities. The chapter on legal capacity and guardianship comparatively examines European laws in this area. Although surveys were completed for all countries, the reports from Sweden, Germany, Spain, France, Ireland, Belgium, the Netherlands, Slovenia and Poland were selected for discussion so as to provide an overview of the varied laws governing guardianship in Europe. Sweden and Germany are commended for their successful legislative reforms and provide a template for other countries to copy or build upon. In France there are three different measures of protection, legal safeguard, trusteeship and protection, afforded to those who lack the necessary capacity to make decisions. The individual needs of each adult determine which type of protection they require. Belgium offers a number of legal protection measures but the two most frequently used are the extended minority and provisional administration. Under extended minority the individual is considered as a minor incapable of controlling all aspects of their lives. This is reserved for individuals with severe intellectual disabilities. Provisional administration only concerns the goods of the individual, while their personal well-being remains within their own control. In the Netherlands full legal guardianship still exists and involves complete substitute decision-making powers. They also offer two partial guardianship measures; one covering only material matters (“Beschermingsbewind”) while the other only covers immaterial matters (“Mentorship”).

http://www.fedvol.ie/_fileupload/Designated Experts/Capacity...

Barend van Zadelhoff
Netherlands
Local time: 03:03
Native speaker of: Native in DutchDutch
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Adult guardianship order as extension of minor (non-adult) status


Explanation:
See discussion for references to why this choice of wording

HOOFDSTUK IV. - VERLENGDE MINDERJARIGHEID.

Art. 487bis. <Ingevoegd bij W 29-06-1973, art. 1> Een minderjarige van wie gebleken is dat hij wegens ernstige geestelijke achterlijkheid ongeschikt is en schijnt te zullen blijven om zichzelf te leiden en zijn goederen te beheren, kan in staat van verlengde minderjarigheid worden verklaard.
Onder ernstige geestelijke achterlijkheid moet worden verstaan een staat van geestelijke onvolwaardigheid, aangeboren of begonnen tijdens de vroege kinderjaren, en gekenmerkt door een uitgebleven ontwikkeling van de gezamenlijke vermogens van verstand, gevoel en wil.

Een zelfde maatregel kan worden genomen ten aanzien van een meerderjarige van wie is gebleken dat hij tijdens zijn minderjarigheid verkeerde in omstandigheden als omschreven in voorgaande leden.
Hij die in staat van verlengde minderjarigheid is verklaard, wordt ten aanzien van zijn persoon en zijn goederen gelijkgesteld met een minderjarige beneden de vijftien jaar.

Art. 487ter. <Ingevoegd bij W 29-06-1973, art. 1> (Voor de minderjarige wordt de staat van verlengde minderjarigheid bij de rechtbank van eerste aanleg van zijn woon- of verblijfplaats aangevraagd bij een verzoekschrift, ondertekend door de vader en de moeder of door een van hen, door de voogd of door hun advocaat of, wanneer dezen het initiatief daartoe niet nemen, door de procureur des Konings.

Voor de meerderjarige wordt de staat van verlengde minderjarigheid bij de rechtbank van eerste aanleg van zijn woon- of verblijfplaats aangevraagd bij een verzoekschrift, ondertekend door gelijk welke bloedverwant, door de voogd van de onbekwaamverklaarde meerderjarige, door hun advocaat of door de procureur des Konings.) <W 06-04-1976, art. 1>

Bij het verzoekschrift wordt een geneeskundig attest van niet meer dan vijftien dagen oud gevoegd, dat de geestelijke onvolwaardigheid beschrijft.

Terry Costin
Netherlands
Local time: 03:03
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 8
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