naar voorlopig oordeel

English translation: in the provisional/preliminary opinion (of the Court)

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Dutch term or phrase:naar voorlopig oordeel
English translation:in the provisional/preliminary opinion (of the Court)
Entered by: Lee Penya

22:59 Mar 1, 2012
Dutch to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law (general) / Civil procedure
Dutch term or phrase: naar voorlopig oordeel
This phrase appears in the "beoordeling" section of a judgment of the Court of the Hague in interim injunction proceedings (regarding trademark and copyright infringement), as follows:

1. Het enkele feit dat voor en belissing op die vorderingen ook een oordeel zal moeten worden gegeven over de overeenkomst, brengt ***naar voorlopig oordeel*** niet mee dat er sprake is van een geschil waarvoor de Nederlands rechter... geen rechtsmacht heeft."

and

2. ***Naar voorlopig oordeel*** is de overeenkomst per xx.xx.2011 rechsgeldig beëindigd.

Target country: USA
Lee Penya
Local time: 20:41
in the provisional/preliminary opinion
Explanation:
of the Court



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Note added at 20 hrs (2012-03-02 19:52:48 GMT)
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http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparitie

Als op de zitting geen schikking wordt bereikt en mediation wordt afgewezen, gaat de procedure door. De rechter geeft aan het einde van de bespreking aan hoe hij tegen de zaak aankijkt. Dit heet een voorlopig oordeel. Het oordeel is voorlopig omdat soms nog niet alles over een zaak bekend is. Ook moet de rechter vaak nog verder nadenken over de zaak en de zaak bespreken met een collega rechter. Daarna gaat de rechter een vonnis schrijven, ...

[my emphasis]

It is an opinion, not a verdict.

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Note added at 21 hrs (2012-03-02 20:37:16 GMT)
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http://www.raadvanarbitrage.nl/content-col/32/26/bodemproced...


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As long as the translation clearly reflects that it is not a ‘binding’ verdict, you could go either way: opinion, finding, judgment, or even ruling.

A good example can be found here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/oct/06/airlines-c...

I have extracted a few sentences to elaborate my point:

quote
The indicative ruling, by the advocate general of the European court of justice, is a blow to airlines and non-European governments… […] “We are pleased that the advocate general's opinion confirms the legality of this important action." […] The UK's climate change minister, Greg Barker, said: "We welcome today's legal opinion.” […] Thursday's rulingan indicative and preliminary finding by one senior judge – was a severe setback to their legal challenges, but is not the end. The governments, and airlines, will continue to fight against the EU in the courts and explore other options. The ATA said: "Today's action is an important step in the court process, but as it is a non-binding preliminary opinion it does not mark the end of this case. The opinion will provide a basis on which the judges assigned to the case can further deliberate and come to a full and unanimous decision. In complex cases such as this one, it would not be unusual for the full court's final opinion to vary from the preliminary opinion."

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4 +4in the provisional/preliminary opinion
sindy cremer
3 +1preliminary judgment/verdict/ruling
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10 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
preliminary judgment/verdict/ruling


Explanation:
It depends on whether the 'beoordeling' section is about an opinion only or a summary of a verdict.

Example sentence(s):
  • In a preliminary judgment/verdict/ruling the agreement was legally terminated.
Petro Ebersöhn (X)
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
in the provisional/preliminary opinion


Explanation:
of the Court



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Note added at 20 hrs (2012-03-02 19:52:48 GMT)
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http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparitie

Als op de zitting geen schikking wordt bereikt en mediation wordt afgewezen, gaat de procedure door. De rechter geeft aan het einde van de bespreking aan hoe hij tegen de zaak aankijkt. Dit heet een voorlopig oordeel. Het oordeel is voorlopig omdat soms nog niet alles over een zaak bekend is. Ook moet de rechter vaak nog verder nadenken over de zaak en de zaak bespreken met een collega rechter. Daarna gaat de rechter een vonnis schrijven, ...

[my emphasis]

It is an opinion, not a verdict.

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Note added at 21 hrs (2012-03-02 20:37:16 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

http://www.raadvanarbitrage.nl/content-col/32/26/bodemproced...


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Note added at 2 days17 hrs (2012-03-04 16:14:24 GMT)
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As long as the translation clearly reflects that it is not a ‘binding’ verdict, you could go either way: opinion, finding, judgment, or even ruling.

A good example can be found here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/oct/06/airlines-c...

I have extracted a few sentences to elaborate my point:

quote
The indicative ruling, by the advocate general of the European court of justice, is a blow to airlines and non-European governments… […] “We are pleased that the advocate general's opinion confirms the legality of this important action." […] The UK's climate change minister, Greg Barker, said: "We welcome today's legal opinion.” […] Thursday's rulingan indicative and preliminary finding by one senior judge – was a severe setback to their legal challenges, but is not the end. The governments, and airlines, will continue to fight against the EU in the courts and explore other options. The ATA said: "Today's action is an important step in the court process, but as it is a non-binding preliminary opinion it does not mark the end of this case. The opinion will provide a basis on which the judges assigned to the case can further deliberate and come to a full and unanimous decision. In complex cases such as this one, it would not be unusual for the full court's final opinion to vary from the preliminary opinion."

unquote

(my emphasis)


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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Alexander Schleber (X)
9 hrs

agree  Monique van Brandenburg: ook volgens juridisch economisch lexicon Kluwer
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agree  Peter van der Hoek
2 days 1 hr

agree  Barend van Zadelhoff: Denk je niet dat 'preliminary judgment' ook zou kunnen/te preferen zou zijn? Vele voorbeelden te vinden op Internet. / Dus waar Petro2 de zaak in het midden laat, hak jij de knoop door: 'verdict, ruling' valt simpel buiten de prijzen, hier en evt. altijd.
2 days 15 hrs
  -> Kan allebei. Ik prefereer 'opinion': geeft beter weer dat het een 'oordeel' betreft, niet per se een einduitspraak. In die zin is 'verdict' dus ook onjuist. Overigens ook legio vb voor 'prelim. opinion' dus de hits zijn (alweer) geen maatstaf.
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