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koopvernietigende vordering

English translation: latent defect claim; hidden defect claim

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Dutch term or phrase:koopvernietigende vordering
English translation:latent defect claim; hidden defect claim
Entered by: Lotte Nouwkens

20:28 May 28, 2013
Dutch to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law (general) / Statuten / Articles of Association
Dutch term or phrase: koopvernietigende vordering
uit de Statuten van een Vlaamse vzw, bevoegdheden van de Raad van Bestuur.

De hele zin luidt:
"De Raad van Bestuur kan o.m. ontslagen of handlichtingen geven met of zonder verzaking aan alle voorrechten en koopvernietigende vordering"

Het gaat erom dat de RvB de inschrijving van de verkoop in het hypotheekregister kan beletten of laten schrappen, met of zonder afstand te doen van haar voorrechten en van haar recht om een vordering te stellen tot ontbinding van de koopovereenkomst,
als ik het goed begrepen heb.

Enige suggesties voor "koopvernietigende vordering"?
Zie ook http://www.proz.com/kudoz/5220280

Dit is blijkbaar een geijkte Vlaamse zin maar ik heb nog nergens Engelse vertalingen teruggevonden, dus in plaats van er een vertaling voor te "verzinnen" wil ik graag bij jullie informeren..

Bedankt
Lotte Nouwkens
Local time: 02:39
latent defect claim; hidden defect claim
Explanation:
This is basically a slight improvement of my previous answer: 'latent claim'.

We are indeed, as Kitty pointed out, dealing with a: '(right to) claim rescission of the sale agreement'. However, this is only part of it. What also needs to be included in the translation is reference to the so-called 'latent defect' (het verborgen gebrek).

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In 'Het nieuwe kooprecht', Sophie Stijns writes:

'Indien het verborgen gebrek waardoor de verkochte zaak is aangetast beantwoordt aan de vereisten die daarvoor door de rechtspraak en de rechtsleer worden gesteld (12), heeft de koper luidens artikel 1644 B.W. de keuze om ofwel

• de zaak terug te geven en zich de prijs te doen terugbetalen, ofwel
• de zaak te behouden en zich een gedeelte van de prijs te doen terugbetalen, welk gedeelte door deskundigen zal worden bepaald.

De eerstgenoemde vordering, die meestal de **koopvernietigende vordering** wordt genoemd, is eigenlijk een vordering tot ontbinding van de koopovereenkomst (13). Aan te stippen valt dat volgens de heersende opvatting de koper, naast of in de plaats van de **koopvernietigende vordering** of de vordering tot prijsvermindering, geen herstelling of vervanging van de gebrekkige zaak mag eisen, omdat dit onverenigbaar is met de twee voormelde vorderingen die door artikel 1644 B.W. aan de koper worden toegekend (14).

Er is echter geen bezwaar tegen dat de partijen in hun overeenkomst anders afspreken, wat in de praktijk vaak gebeurt door middel van zgn. waarborgkaarten of commerciële waarborgen die fabrikanten en voortverkopers aan hun klanten bieden, en wat een geldige contractuele uitbreiding is van de wettelijke vrijwaringsverplichting van de verkoper (15).

De koper die de **koopvernietigende vordering** instelt, kan daarenboven van de verkoper nog schadevergoeding vorderen voor het nadeel dat hij door het verborgen gebrek heeft geleden, maar de omvang ervan verschilt naargelang de verkoper al of niet op de hoogte was van het verborgen gebrek (art. 1645-1646 B.W.) (16).'

(http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=ZqNsINttpQgC&pg=PA32&lpg=... )
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For the phrase 'latent defect claim', see e.g.:

• 'Other insurances
If you have any other insurance in force on your property you have an obligation to notify the relevant insurer as they may class the **latent defect claim** as a material fact applicable to their policy.' (http://www.premierguarantee.co.uk/media/15162/sip_claim_form... )

• 'Factual summary

Johnston sold his house and shortly thereafter had to deal with a claim for latent defects by his buyers. The latent defect in issue was related to an old oil heating tank that had been buried and caused a contamination due to its perforation.

Faced with this claim, Johnston filed warranty proceedings against his insurer, namely Chubb, on the basis that he was covered for “all property damage which take place anytime during the policy period and are caused by an occurrence”. He therefore sought coverage on his buyer’s **latent defect claim**.

On the other hand, Chubb argued that the latent defect claim from Johnston's buyers could not be considered an “occurrence” as per the policy wording or in general for that matter.' (http://www.thearcgroup.ca/documents/2010 Top Ten Article10b.... )

• 'The Board Certified Construction Specialists at FBSW can help you evaluate your potential claim or defense of a latent defect claim.' (http://fbswlaw.com/practice/construction/defectlitigation/ )


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Note added at 1 day14 hrs (2013-05-30 11:12:22 GMT)
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See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latent_defect re: latent defect / patent defects in the law of the sale of property
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Michael Beijer
United Kingdom
Local time: 01:39
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Summary of answers provided
4 +2redhibitory claim
Michael Beijer
4latent claim
Michael Beijer
4latent defect claim; hidden defect claim
Michael Beijer
3claim rescission of the sale agreement
Kitty Brussaard


Discussion entries: 11





  

Answers


1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
redhibitory claim


Explanation:
'The court also relied on a previous case decided by the Louisiana Fifth Circuit, which held that “when a purchaser observes stained ceiling tiles and receives a strong recommendation for a roof inspection from her own real estate agent, but said purchaser ignored the strong recommendation for a roof inspection and proceeds with the purchase, a redhibitory claim based upon a leaking roof must fail.' (http://www.docstoc.com/docs/139148564/REAL-ESTATE-ASSISTANTS... )

Michael Beijer
United Kingdom
Local time: 01:39
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 189

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Marie-Helene Dubois
9 hrs
  -> Thanks Marie-Helene!
neutral  Bryan Crumpler: I'd agree, but this term is only applicable to Louisana law - a gallicism stemming from its French-Creole roots (rédhibitoire). Perhaps something more general may suffice?
9 hrs
  -> I was wondering about that myself. Garner's Dictionary of Legal Usage also says that 'Louisiana is the only US jurisdiction in which this civil-law term is used.' However, 'redhibitory action' does seem to be used in e.g. the UK.
agree  W Schouten
15 hrs
  -> Thanks! Although I am now not sure this can be used as it does seem to be very specific to Louisiana law (although it does seem to capture the meaning of the Belgian concept perfectly).
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13 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
latent claim


Explanation:
See my extensive Discussion entries. This is the best I can come up with at the moment.

Compare the meaning of a 'redhibitory claim' and a 'latent claim':

••• 'redhibitory claim':
'REDHIBITION:

Louisiana is the only American jurisdiction in which this civil-law term is used. It denotes the voidance of a sale as the result of an action brought on account of some defect in something sold, on grounds that the defect renders the thing sold either useless or so imperfect that the buyer would not have purchased if the buyer had known of the defect. Redhibitory is the usual adjectival form.' (Garner's Dictionary of Legal Usage)

••• 'latent claim':
'Latent claims: Claims resulting from perils or causes that the insurer is unaware of at the time of writing a policy, and for which the potential for claims to be made many years later has not been appreciated. The first claims from these sources may often not be apparent until many years after the period of cover. Sources of latent claims already experienced include asbestos- related diseases, pollution and industrial deafness.' (http://actuarialwiki.org/index.php?title=Latent_claims )

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Note added at 13 hrs (2013-05-29 10:25:31 GMT)
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'latent defect: In the law of the sale of property (both real estate and personal property or chattels) a latent defect is a fault in the property that could not have been discovered by a reasonably thorough inspection before the sale.'

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latent_defect )

Example sentence(s):
  • Latent claims: Claims resulting from perils or causes that the insurer is unaware of at the time of writing a policy, and for which the potential for claims to be made many years later has not been appreciated.
Michael Beijer
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Local time: 01:39
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PRO pts in category: 189
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1 day 12 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
koopvernietigende vordering instellen
claim rescission of the sale agreement


Explanation:
Zie ook discussie.

Kitty Brussaard
Netherlands
Local time: 02:39
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Native speaker of: Native in DutchDutch
PRO pts in category: 152

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Michael Beijer: I am not sure this captures enough of the Dutch concept. What also needs to be included in the translation is reference to the so-called 'latent defect' (het verborgen gebrek).
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1 day 12 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
latent defect claim; hidden defect claim


Explanation:
This is basically a slight improvement of my previous answer: 'latent claim'.

We are indeed, as Kitty pointed out, dealing with a: '(right to) claim rescission of the sale agreement'. However, this is only part of it. What also needs to be included in the translation is reference to the so-called 'latent defect' (het verborgen gebrek).

-----------------------------------------------------*
In 'Het nieuwe kooprecht', Sophie Stijns writes:

'Indien het verborgen gebrek waardoor de verkochte zaak is aangetast beantwoordt aan de vereisten die daarvoor door de rechtspraak en de rechtsleer worden gesteld (12), heeft de koper luidens artikel 1644 B.W. de keuze om ofwel

• de zaak terug te geven en zich de prijs te doen terugbetalen, ofwel
• de zaak te behouden en zich een gedeelte van de prijs te doen terugbetalen, welk gedeelte door deskundigen zal worden bepaald.

De eerstgenoemde vordering, die meestal de **koopvernietigende vordering** wordt genoemd, is eigenlijk een vordering tot ontbinding van de koopovereenkomst (13). Aan te stippen valt dat volgens de heersende opvatting de koper, naast of in de plaats van de **koopvernietigende vordering** of de vordering tot prijsvermindering, geen herstelling of vervanging van de gebrekkige zaak mag eisen, omdat dit onverenigbaar is met de twee voormelde vorderingen die door artikel 1644 B.W. aan de koper worden toegekend (14).

Er is echter geen bezwaar tegen dat de partijen in hun overeenkomst anders afspreken, wat in de praktijk vaak gebeurt door middel van zgn. waarborgkaarten of commerciële waarborgen die fabrikanten en voortverkopers aan hun klanten bieden, en wat een geldige contractuele uitbreiding is van de wettelijke vrijwaringsverplichting van de verkoper (15).

De koper die de **koopvernietigende vordering** instelt, kan daarenboven van de verkoper nog schadevergoeding vorderen voor het nadeel dat hij door het verborgen gebrek heeft geleden, maar de omvang ervan verschilt naargelang de verkoper al of niet op de hoogte was van het verborgen gebrek (art. 1645-1646 B.W.) (16).'

(http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=ZqNsINttpQgC&pg=PA32&lpg=... )
-----------------------------------------------------*

For the phrase 'latent defect claim', see e.g.:

• 'Other insurances
If you have any other insurance in force on your property you have an obligation to notify the relevant insurer as they may class the **latent defect claim** as a material fact applicable to their policy.' (http://www.premierguarantee.co.uk/media/15162/sip_claim_form... )

• 'Factual summary

Johnston sold his house and shortly thereafter had to deal with a claim for latent defects by his buyers. The latent defect in issue was related to an old oil heating tank that had been buried and caused a contamination due to its perforation.

Faced with this claim, Johnston filed warranty proceedings against his insurer, namely Chubb, on the basis that he was covered for “all property damage which take place anytime during the policy period and are caused by an occurrence”. He therefore sought coverage on his buyer’s **latent defect claim**.

On the other hand, Chubb argued that the latent defect claim from Johnston's buyers could not be considered an “occurrence” as per the policy wording or in general for that matter.' (http://www.thearcgroup.ca/documents/2010 Top Ten Article10b.... )

• 'The Board Certified Construction Specialists at FBSW can help you evaluate your potential claim or defense of a latent defect claim.' (http://fbswlaw.com/practice/construction/defectlitigation/ )


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Note added at 1 day14 hrs (2013-05-30 11:12:22 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latent_defect re: latent defect / patent defects in the law of the sale of property

Example sentence(s):
  • On the other hand, Chubb argued that the latent defect claim from Johnston's buyers could not be considered an “occurrence” as per the policy wording or in general for that matter.
  • The Board Certified Construction Specialists at FBSW can help you evaluate your potential claim or defense of a latent defect claim.

    Reference: http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-hidden-defect.htm
Michael Beijer
United Kingdom
Local time: 01:39
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 189
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Thank you, Michael, for your thorough search and answers!
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