kaakwal

English translation: ridge of the jaw

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Dutch term or phrase:kaakwal
English translation:ridge of the jaw
Entered by: Ruchira Raychaudhuri

22:03 Jun 7, 2012
Dutch to English translations [PRO]
Medical - Medical: Dentistry
Dutch term or phrase: kaakwal
"De arts vroeg tijdens de anamnese naar mondklachten en verrichte een mondonderzoek zoals beschreven staat in de richtlijn Mondzorg voor zorgafhankelijke cliënten in verpleeghuizen. Beoordeeld werden de lippen, de mate van speekselproductie, het slijmvlies in de mond, het tandvlees, de kaakwal onder de prothese, de conditie van de eigen tanden, de conditie van de prothese en de algehele mondhygiëne."

This if from a description of a medical study of xerostomia (dry mouth) conducted by a Dutch hospital. This is the only reference to "kaakwal". I'm coming across various references to it online (its also known as "kaakrand") but I'm not sure what the term would be in English. Going by the style of the sentence, I think a sort of "layman's" term would fit in the sentence rather than a very scientific one.

Its a bit urgent so would really appreciate some help..thanks!
Thanks.
Ruchira Raychaudhuri
Belgium
Local time: 18:24
jaw ridge
Explanation:
Jaw ridge would be an alternative to jaw bone (OR mandibular ridge, since it involves upper as well as lower jaw bones):

"Everyone knows that an implant should always be placed only in places where the jaw ridge is adequately broad and high."
http://www.sailerclinic.com/en/zaehne/implantate/kieferkamma...

If enough bone between the upper jaw ridge and the bottom of the sinus is available to stabilize the implant well, sinus augmentations and implant placement can sometimes be performed as a single procedure. If not enough bone is available, the sinus augmentation will have to be performed first, then the graft will have to mature for several months, depending upon the type of graft material used. Once the graft has matured, the implants can be placed.
http://www.albanyoms.com/oral-surgery-albany/bone-grafting.a...
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Lianne van de Ven
United States
Local time: 12:24
Grading comment
Thanks, I used this.
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Summary of answers provided
4jawbone
Machteld/Johan Schrameijer/Westenburg
4jaw ridge
Lianne van de Ven
3mandibular ridge
Barend van Zadelhoff
Summary of reference entries provided
kaakwal = kaakbot
Lianne van de Ven

  

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jawbone


Explanation:
dit heb ik meerdere keren gezien in dat verband

Machteld/Johan Schrameijer/Westenburg
Local time: 18:24
Native speaker of: Native in DutchDutch, Native in EnglishEnglish
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Asker: Thanks!

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jaw ridge


Explanation:
Jaw ridge would be an alternative to jaw bone (OR mandibular ridge, since it involves upper as well as lower jaw bones):

"Everyone knows that an implant should always be placed only in places where the jaw ridge is adequately broad and high."
http://www.sailerclinic.com/en/zaehne/implantate/kieferkamma...

If enough bone between the upper jaw ridge and the bottom of the sinus is available to stabilize the implant well, sinus augmentations and implant placement can sometimes be performed as a single procedure. If not enough bone is available, the sinus augmentation will have to be performed first, then the graft will have to mature for several months, depending upon the type of graft material used. Once the graft has matured, the implants can be placed.
http://www.albanyoms.com/oral-surgery-albany/bone-grafting.a...

Lianne van de Ven
United States
Local time: 12:24
Native speaker of: Native in DutchDutch
PRO pts in category: 7
Grading comment
Thanks, I used this.
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks for your help!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Barend van Zadelhoff: first you agree with Machteld, then you remove your agree because 'ridge' might be a better idea after all (thank you, Barend) and then you enter 'jaw ridge' which still seems/ sounds to me inferior to mandibular or maxillary ridge in this context./Is it?
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  -> Asker was looking for lay terminology.
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mandibular ridge


Explanation:

I would not know about a layman's term in English
but this is what a dentist would use, I guess

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-mandibular-ridge.htm

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Note added at 33 mins (2012-06-07 22:36:58 GMT)
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here are some pictures as well

http://www.google.nl/search?q="mandibular ridge"&hl=nl&lr=&a...

Good question, but I think 'kaakwal' refers here to the lower jaw because the text says 'onder de prothese' and not 'boven de prothese' but this can be just a matter of perspective of course

I am not sure whether 'kaakwal' is exclusively used for the lower jaw, otherwise you could use 'maxillary and mandibular ridges'

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Note added at 40 mins (2012-06-07 22:44:19 GMT)
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I also notice(d) that 'prothese' is used in the singular
it doesn't say the 'kaakwal onder de protheses'

they are talking about one prosthesis

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Note added at 5 hrs (2012-06-08 03:34:53 GMT)
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if 'jawbone' would 'do the job' - it doesn't - then it would exclusively refer to the 'lower jaw'

however 'kaakwal' refers here to the visible ridge that is supported by the alveolar processes of the mandible (or maxilla)
these alveolar processes concerns only the upper part of the mandible (or only the lower part of the maxilla)

what the dentist inspects in your text is what is shown in the pictures of the 'mandibular ridge' (or the maxillary ridge)

and this is what 'kaakwal' refers to

here are some pictures of the maxillary ridge:

http://www.google.nl/search?q="maxillary ridge"&hl=nl&lr=&as...

this is what a 'jawbone' is about:

The mandible [2] pronunciation (from Latin mandibula, "jawbone") or inferior maxillary bone forms the lower jaw and holds the lower teeth in place. The term "mandible" also refers to both the upper and lower sections of the beaks of birds; in this case the "lower mandible" corresponds to the mandible of humans, while the "upper mandible" is functionally equivalent to the human maxilla but mainly consists of the premaxillary bones.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_mandible

most likely I did not need to tell you this

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Note added at 1 day16 hrs (2012-06-09 14:38:04 GMT) Post-grading
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there is ONLY ONE THING that I will admit:

'ridge of the jaw' sounds much better than 'jaw ridge' :-)

this at face value small alteration makes all the difference
because only now it becomes clear that the translator is trying to describe something and thus she can be pardoned for not using the obvious technical term(s)

'jaw ridge' is an awkward hybrid of a technical term and an apparent layman's term ( but really a misleading literal translation) that certainly could not be used in this context

it is mainly used in the context of the characteristics of the relevant bones as separate entities, the objects in themselves

kind regards




Barend van Zadelhoff
Netherlands
Local time: 18:24
Native speaker of: Native in DutchDutch
PRO pts in category: 12
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks, but why particularly the lower jaw since the sentence only refers to "kaakwal" which could also be the upper (maxillary) jaw on which the denture is placed?

Asker: Barend, thanks a lot for all the information you provided and for your research but I really did think a non-scientific term would fit better in the context, so I chose to describe it as "ridge of the jaw". I did send the terms mandibular and maxillary ridges in an additional note to the client. Thanks!

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Reference comments


3 hrs peer agreement (net): -1
Reference: kaakwal = kaakbot

Reference information:
kaakwal, kaakbot:
De mate waarin het kaakbot na het trekken zal slinken, is moeilijk te voorspellen en verschilt van persoon tot persoon. Maar als een tand door bijv. een infectie of een ongeluk/klap al bot heeft verloren is de situatie ongunstiger dan in het geval de tand nog volledig omgeven was door bot.
De kaakwal afgebeeld op de linkerafbeelding is na extractie van de tand smaller geworden (horizontale resorptie) en de kaakwal op de rechterafbeelding heeft duidelijk hoogte verloren (verticale resorptie).
http://www.tandarts.nl/mondverzorging/behandelingen/botopbou...

Missing teeth can cause the jaw bone to shrink and change configuration over time (from left to right)
http://www.thedentalimplantcenter.com/Dental_Implant_FAQ.htm

In het beste geval verwijst kaakwal naar het kaakbot met tandvlees eromheen, het geheel. Maar dat wordt toch nog doorgaans kaakbot genoemd, of jaw bone. Uiteindelijk is het tandvlees ook maar een laagje dat overal min of meer even dik is, en het geheel neemt de vorm aan van het bot.

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Note added at 3 hrs (2012-06-08 01:47:44 GMT)
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"Onder de prothese" is "onder" de prothese, ongeacht of de prothese in de onder- of bovenkaak zit.

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Note added at 4 hrs (2012-06-08 02:48:11 GMT)
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"How Does the Jaw Bone Shrink?

When teeth are lost or extracted, the bone that previously supported those teeth no longer serves a purpose and begins to deteriorate or resorb. Dentures accelerate the bone resorption process as they put pressure on and compact the gums and underlying bone. As facial structures continue to collapse, the dentures must be relined (made thicker) to compensate for additional bone loss."
http://www.facialart.com/our-practice/dental-procedures-oral...

Lianne van de Ven
United States
Native speaker of: Native in DutchDutch
PRO pts in category: 7

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
disagree  Barend van Zadelhoff: je eerste referentie bevestigt precies wat ik zeg en in je tweede referentie wordt niet verwezen naar de 'kaakwal' maar naar het hele kaakbot en dan: hoe zou de tandarts het KAAKBOT ! moeten inspecteren: hij ziet alleen de contouren van de bovenrand: wal
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  -> I think jaw bone does the job, but I also found references for "jaw ridge" and entered it as an answer.
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