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17:52 Dec 3, 2004 

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16:12 Dec 3, 2004 

16:03 Dec 3, 2004 

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15:48 Dec 3, 2004 

15:36 Dec 3, 2004 

15:29 Dec 3, 2004 

I mean, we are not just doing translation - we are doing proper phrasing in Chinese, especially when it comes to advertisements.

15:28 Dec 3, 2004 

To jyuan_us: I don't have problem with the English original. I do have a lot of problems to understand the Chinese "translation." It is not a correct Chinese sentence. If I didn't read the English original, I would get stuck at that ����f. The reasons have been discussed above. Remember, we are not just doing "translation" - we are doing proper phrasing in Chinese.

15:27 Dec 3, 2004 

15:23 Dec 3, 2004 

Sorry, I mean, the Chinese expression ����f would arouse some contractions in the potential customers' stomachs.
To Shang: Think of the expression ���f֮݅ and you see the implication (negative connotation) of ����. Besides, though we omit subjects in Chinese sentences, there is always a subject in a sentence. �أ��������� seems to have two subjects who do not stand on the same ground.

15:23 Dec 3, 2004 

15:14 Dec 3, 2004 

To jyuan_us: Are you sure that ����f in the Chinese sentence means "making it a piece of cake for you," instead of "making you a piece of cake"?

15:13 Dec 3, 2004 

15:10 Dec 3, 2004 

To Mark: Thank you very much for the poem. In that case, the subject suits the predicate. There isn't any problem of bad taste. The person regards himself as nothing. That is why he can take the horrible death as something common and ordinary. But in the advertisement of the company mentioned, the Chinese expression ����f would arouse some contractions in the potential customers' stomach, IMO.

14:59 Dec 3, 2004 

Shang's Chinese understanding is 100% correct.
To be exact, my question is: If the advertiser wants to say "we make it a piece of cake for you," why does the Chiense translation sound like "we make you feel kind of a stupid guy" or "we make you feel like a small potatoe"?
I am wondering how the potential Chinese customers would feel themselves like when reading such expressions as �أ��������� and �أأ��η���ʥ��

14:51 Dec 3, 2004 

14:42 Dec 3, 2004 

To Shang: It is indeed very awkward! Some one who does ��ͥ�Ų� doesn't necessarily �����. I would say, it's not just awkward - it is wrong - becaue ���� has a bad connotation, something like making the customers stupid.

14:38 Dec 3, 2004 

To jyuan_us: Are you sure that ����� is the right expression for "making things easier for you"?

14:07 Dec 3, 2004 

To Shang: Thank you for your prompt answer. But my question is something else. I was asking how could this Chinese phrase be proper to meet the ends? I know you are not ���f֮݅, but do you expect others to help you to become ����f?