Lender’s engineer

10:44 Mar 22, 2013
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English to Croatian translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Energy / Power Generation
English term or phrase: Lender’s engineer
Key skills:
Lender’s engineer
Owner’s engineer
Power station electrical systems
Zdenka Ivkovcic
Croatia
Local time: 01:54


Summary of answers provided
4 +1Engineer (nezavisni inženjer) / (stručni nadzor)
Mira Stepanovic
3Revident
Suncana Kursan


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lender’s engineer
Revident


Explanation:
Cini mi se da ipak to nije 'nadzorni inzenjer' nego revident.


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Suncana Kursan
Croatia
Local time: 01:54
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in CroatianCroatian, Native in Serbo-CroatSerbo-Croat
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lender’s engineer
Engineer (nezavisni inženjer) / (stručni nadzor)


Explanation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owner's_engineer
Owner's Engineer or also known as Client's Engineer, Lender's Engineer or Independent Engineer,[1] is a term often given to the representative of the commissioning company of a construction or engineering project. It refers to the personnel involved in technical Due diligence.

Most often, an Owner's Engineer is an independent third party or subcontracted role; undertaken to ensure that the technical and build contractors are adhering sufficiently to the project specification. Owner's Engineers also fill gaps in resources and expertise for a project.

Malo je komplikovano jer značenje nije jednoznačno definisano. Postoji dilema, ovde možete pročitati, Sveučilište u Rijeci, Građevinski fakultet:
http://www.gradri.uniri.hr/adminmax/files/class/OG-6.pdf
4.3. Stručni nadzor i FIDIC-ov „Engineer“ u nacionalnoj praksi
Znakovit je način na koji se u domaćoj praksi trenutno primjenjuje koncept FIDIC-ovog „Nezavisnog inženjera“ („Trusted Independent Engineer“) - „Engineer“ koji se ugovora prema „Client/Consultant Model Service Agreement“, u odnosu na dominantnu formu FIDIC 99 - „Conditions of Contracts for Construction for Building and Engineering Works Designed by the Employer - Red Book“:
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Općeprihvaćena je činjenica da je vrijednost FIDIC-a u njegovoj konzistentnosti i cjelovitosti, pa se smisao FIDIC-a derogira neprimjenom FIDIC-ovog koncepta Engineer-a. Jednako tako derogira se smisao kad je Naručitelj u cijelosti, ili djelomično preuzeo ulogu Engineer-a. U FIDIC 4th, izričito se kaže da odnos između Naručitelja i Engineer-a treba biti ugovorni, Engineer mora bit nezavisan, pa stoga status Engineer-a kao Naručitelja nije prihvatljiv(„This definition excludes some other suppliers of services such as: In-house departments within the promoter′s organisation, ... , Public corporations, ...“), pa je na Izvođaču prihvatiti ili odbaciti ugovor s ovakvom raspodjelom uloga. Interesantno je da formalne i psihološke zapreke ovakve vrste ne postoje u konceptu „stručnog nadzora“ (ukoliko je Naručitelj registriran za ovakvu vrstu djelatnosti i ukoliko posjeduje ovlaštene inženjere u skladu sodredbama ZPUG-a).

Ja lično bih napisala Engineer - Nezavisni inženjer (Lender's engeener) - to je na strani sigurnosti, jer precizniji prevod (Engineer - Nezavisni inženjer / stručni nadzor) zavisi od toga da li je ugovor o građenju prema FIDIC-u ili ne (tj. ko to obavlja).

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http://www.aces.rs/FIDIC.sr.html
Međunarodni savez inženjera konsultanata FIDIC (Fédération International Des Ingénieurs – Conseils) osnovan je 1913. godine sa sedištem u Ženevi, i danas okuplja 83 nacionalna inženjersko-konsultantska udruženja širom sveta, kao i milion stručnjaka u domenu građevinarstva i srodnih disciplina. FIDIC definiše standardizovane modele ugovora za različite tipove investicionih projekata, pri čemu su rizici projekta umanjeni i interesi učesnika u projektu zaštićeni. FIDIC pruža proveren mehanizam pravne zaštite, sigurnosti i smanjene mogućnosti korupcije.

Mira Stepanovic
Serbia
Local time: 01:54
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