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shambolic defeat

14:38 Oct 14, 2010
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English to Dutch translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Government / Politics
English term or phrase: shambolic defeat
Context: de EU wilde meer rechten in de Algemene Vergadering van de VN, maar dat is niet gelukt. Zelfs een aantal trouwe bondgenoten onthielden zich van stemming.

“The E.U.’s shambolic defeat was more than a humiliation,” said Paul Luif, Europe expert at the Austrian Institute for International Affairs in Vienna. “It showed the growing lack of support for an E.U. that seems more and more ineffective at the U.N.”

'shambolic" = wanordelijk, maar hier lijkt het eerder te gaan om een "verpletterende nederlaag".
Jan Messchendorp
Netherlands
Local time: 03:59


Summary of answers provided
4 +1chaotische nederlaag
Ron Willems
4schandelijke nederlaag
Stijn Claerhout
Summary of reference entries provided
Oxford Dictionary of English
Jack den Haan

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3 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
chaotische nederlaag


Explanation:
vanwege een slechte organisatie van bondgenoten, dus wel degelijk chaotisch en niet verpletterend

Ron Willems
Netherlands
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agree  Kate Hudson (X)
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1 day 7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
schandelijke nederlaag


Explanation:
klinkt beter vind ik, en 't heeft toch 1260 hits op google.

Stijn Claerhout
Bulgaria
Local time: 04:59
Native speaker of: Dutch
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46 mins
Reference: Oxford Dictionary of English

Reference information:
De indirecte verwijzing naar de tweede betekenis van 'shambles' (slaughterhouse) zou jouw vermoeden -- heel misschien -- wel eens kunnen bevestigen.

shambolic
► adjective informal, chiefly Brit. chaotic, disorganized, or mismanaged: the department's shambolic accounting.
DERIVATIVES
shambolically adverb.
ORIGIN
1970s: from shambles, probably on the pattern of symbolic.

shambles
► plural noun [treated as sing.]
1. informal a state of total disorder: my career was in a shambles.
2. a butcher's slaughterhouse (archaic except in place names).

Jack den Haan
Netherlands
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