Triple Low

Dutch translation: "triple low" state - do not translate

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English term or phrase:Triple Low
Dutch translation:"triple low" state - do not translate
Entered by: Erzsébet Czopyk

21:05 Jul 28, 2016
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Medical - Medical (general)
English term or phrase: Triple Low
A "triple low" of low blood pressure, low bispectral index, and low minimum alveolar concentration of volatile anesthesia.

Bron:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22546967

Het is dus duidelijk wat 'triple low' inhoudt, maar ik zoek een gangbare Nederlandse vertaling... of in het Engels laten?
Marieke Schoutens (X)
Netherlands
Local time: 18:37
zogenoemde staat "verdrievoudigde lage" ("triple low") / just an opinion
Explanation:
BACKGROUND:
Low mean arterial pressure (MAP) and deep hypnosis have been associated with complications and mortality. The normal response to high minimum alveolar concentration (MAC) fraction of anesthetics is hypotension and low Bispectral Index (BIS) scores. Low MAP and/or BIS at lower MAC fractions may represent anesthetic sensitivity. The authors sought to characterize the effect of the triple low state (low MAP and low BIS during a low MAC fraction) on duration of hospitalization and 30-day all-cause mortality.

effect van de drievoudige lage toestand te karakteriseren

https://www.ntvg.nl/artikelen/nederlandse-vereniging-voor-an...
1 maal tijdens inhalatie van 0,1 minimale alveolaire concentratie (MAC) sevofluraan zonder pijn en 1 maal tijdens inhalatie van 0,1 MAC sevofluraan en de toediening van pijnlijke stimuli (VAS = 5 cm). De eindexpiratoire PCO2 werd gelijk gehouden op 5,5 kPa. Tijdens experimenten werd het elektro-encefalogram (EEG) bewaakt en werd de ‘bispectral index’ (BI-EEG) ‘on line’ bepaald.

MAP gemiddelde arteriële bloeddruk - EclecticSite
www.eclecticsite.be/calc/map.htm
Het gemiddelde van de arteriële bloeddruk over een bepaalde tijdsperiode wordt gedefinieerd als de ... Een lage MAP is een aanwijzing voor een lage perfusie

Definition: “triple low state,” a combination of low mean arterial blood pressure (<75 mmHg), low bispectral index (<45), and low minimum alveolar concentration of volatile anesthesia (<0.70).

I found a totally unrelated topic where the word "triple-low" in totally different context left untranslated
6**-*{s% - TNO Publications
publications.tno.nl/publication/34614899/.../NRLO-1990-07.pdf
Dit kan aIs veevoedergrondstof slecht, s beperkt worden toegepast., o.t. vanwege de aanwezigheid van glucosinolaten, sinapines en tannines. Met de huidige overschakeling naar dubbel-nulrassen (laag gehalte aan erucazuur en glucosinolaten) is de kwaliteit, van het schroot veel verbeterd. VeredeIing naar laag sinapine gehalce is eveneens gewenst (triple-low koolzaad).

I would do something like this:
zogenoemde patiënten staat "verdrievoudigen lage"
zogenoemde staat "verdrievoudigde lage" ("triple low")

I apologize but I do not know Dutch so please puzzle the correct grammar :) but I would be brave and I would translate and leave English in parentheses.

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please do not throw stones!

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Perioperative Hemodynamic Monitoring and Goal Directed Therapy: From ...
https://books.google.hu/books?isbn=1107048176 - Oldal lefordítása
Maxime Cannesson, ‎Rupert Pearse - 2014 - ‎Medical
Various hypotheses have been put forward in an attempt to explain the associations between the intraoperative “triple low” state and postoperative mortality.

Journal Club- Triple Low State by Kavita Sasi Kumar on Prezi
https://prezi.com/8bmaf5rnawga/journal-club-triple-low-state...
Kavita Sasi Kumar Mano Doraiswami Journal Club- Triple Low State Research Methodology Study population. Intraoperative ...

Issues in Surgery, Perioperative, and Anesthesia Research and ...
https://books.google.hu/books?isbn=1490110844 - Oldal lefordítása
2013 - ‎Medical
The authors sought to characterize the effect of the triple low state (low MAP and low BIS during a low MAC fraction) on duration of hospitalization and 30-day ...

Veilig werken met inhalatieanesthetica - Veterinary Technics
www.veterinarytechnics.com/.../Veilig_werken_met_inhalatiea...
kunnen chronisch en repeterend worden blootgesteld aan hoge en lage concentraties .... betekent dus ook: concentraties onder de wettelijke grenswaarde (Maximale .... Maak gebruik van bronafzuiging wanneer u vluchtige anesthetica toedient met een ..... In de anesthesie staat de afkorting MAC voor Minimum Alveolaire.

[PDF]b isoflo a4 - AST Farma
www.astfarma.nl/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/b-isoflo-a4.pdf
Een heldere, kleurloze, vluchtige vloeistof uit de generatie van dampvormige ... De hieronder vermelde MAC (minimale alveolaire concentratie) in zuurstof voor ... anesthesie met isofluraan en het lage metabolisme ervan, kunnen als een voor-.

I remember 1993 when I translated a book about epidural anaesthesia and analgesia and due to translating some terms and not leaving them in English I was insulted and heavily criticised. I love English but I am for protection about any national language therefore you have two options:

To translate literally triple low state and protect your native language:

To not translate "triple low" and write "triple low" staat (lage alveolaire concentratie (MAC), lage bispectral index en lage minimum alveolaire concentratie van vluchtige anesthesie (correct the Dutch if I made a mistake) but give an explanation in parentheses).


For others who put a neutral: any suggestions made they were made not for gaining points but for knowing it is a field where I translated a lot of materials and articles.


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And last but not least: I think it is no ones privilige to give an answer. Even a mouse can help the lion to gnawe the net and free him. A kindness is never wasted.

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privilege, sorry

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https://www.askideas.com/love-and-kindness-are-never-wasted-...

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A UI string? (=a true nightmare. I am sorry for you. I wish the best of luck to finish your work.)

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Hartelijk bedankt.
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Erzsébet Czopyk
Hungary
Local time: 18:37
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triple low
zogenoemde staat "verdrievoudigde lage" ("triple low") / just an opinion


Explanation:
BACKGROUND:
Low mean arterial pressure (MAP) and deep hypnosis have been associated with complications and mortality. The normal response to high minimum alveolar concentration (MAC) fraction of anesthetics is hypotension and low Bispectral Index (BIS) scores. Low MAP and/or BIS at lower MAC fractions may represent anesthetic sensitivity. The authors sought to characterize the effect of the triple low state (low MAP and low BIS during a low MAC fraction) on duration of hospitalization and 30-day all-cause mortality.

effect van de drievoudige lage toestand te karakteriseren

https://www.ntvg.nl/artikelen/nederlandse-vereniging-voor-an...
1 maal tijdens inhalatie van 0,1 minimale alveolaire concentratie (MAC) sevofluraan zonder pijn en 1 maal tijdens inhalatie van 0,1 MAC sevofluraan en de toediening van pijnlijke stimuli (VAS = 5 cm). De eindexpiratoire PCO2 werd gelijk gehouden op 5,5 kPa. Tijdens experimenten werd het elektro-encefalogram (EEG) bewaakt en werd de ‘bispectral index’ (BI-EEG) ‘on line’ bepaald.

MAP gemiddelde arteriële bloeddruk - EclecticSite
www.eclecticsite.be/calc/map.htm
Het gemiddelde van de arteriële bloeddruk over een bepaalde tijdsperiode wordt gedefinieerd als de ... Een lage MAP is een aanwijzing voor een lage perfusie

Definition: “triple low state,” a combination of low mean arterial blood pressure (<75 mmHg), low bispectral index (<45), and low minimum alveolar concentration of volatile anesthesia (<0.70).

I found a totally unrelated topic where the word "triple-low" in totally different context left untranslated
6**-*{s% - TNO Publications
publications.tno.nl/publication/34614899/.../NRLO-1990-07.pdf
Dit kan aIs veevoedergrondstof slecht, s beperkt worden toegepast., o.t. vanwege de aanwezigheid van glucosinolaten, sinapines en tannines. Met de huidige overschakeling naar dubbel-nulrassen (laag gehalte aan erucazuur en glucosinolaten) is de kwaliteit, van het schroot veel verbeterd. VeredeIing naar laag sinapine gehalce is eveneens gewenst (triple-low koolzaad).

I would do something like this:
zogenoemde patiënten staat "verdrievoudigen lage"
zogenoemde staat "verdrievoudigde lage" ("triple low")

I apologize but I do not know Dutch so please puzzle the correct grammar :) but I would be brave and I would translate and leave English in parentheses.

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 1 hr (2016-07-28 22:29:03 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

please do not throw stones!

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 3 days11 hrs (2016-08-01 08:34:37 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

Perioperative Hemodynamic Monitoring and Goal Directed Therapy: From ...
https://books.google.hu/books?isbn=1107048176 - Oldal lefordítása
Maxime Cannesson, ‎Rupert Pearse - 2014 - ‎Medical
Various hypotheses have been put forward in an attempt to explain the associations between the intraoperative “triple low” state and postoperative mortality.

Journal Club- Triple Low State by Kavita Sasi Kumar on Prezi
https://prezi.com/8bmaf5rnawga/journal-club-triple-low-state...
Kavita Sasi Kumar Mano Doraiswami Journal Club- Triple Low State Research Methodology Study population. Intraoperative ...

Issues in Surgery, Perioperative, and Anesthesia Research and ...
https://books.google.hu/books?isbn=1490110844 - Oldal lefordítása
2013 - ‎Medical
The authors sought to characterize the effect of the triple low state (low MAP and low BIS during a low MAC fraction) on duration of hospitalization and 30-day ...

Veilig werken met inhalatieanesthetica - Veterinary Technics
www.veterinarytechnics.com/.../Veilig_werken_met_inhalatiea...
kunnen chronisch en repeterend worden blootgesteld aan hoge en lage concentraties .... betekent dus ook: concentraties onder de wettelijke grenswaarde (Maximale .... Maak gebruik van bronafzuiging wanneer u vluchtige anesthetica toedient met een ..... In de anesthesie staat de afkorting MAC voor Minimum Alveolaire.

[PDF]b isoflo a4 - AST Farma
www.astfarma.nl/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/b-isoflo-a4.pdf
Een heldere, kleurloze, vluchtige vloeistof uit de generatie van dampvormige ... De hieronder vermelde MAC (minimale alveolaire concentratie) in zuurstof voor ... anesthesie met isofluraan en het lage metabolisme ervan, kunnen als een voor-.

I remember 1993 when I translated a book about epidural anaesthesia and analgesia and due to translating some terms and not leaving them in English I was insulted and heavily criticised. I love English but I am for protection about any national language therefore you have two options:

To translate literally triple low state and protect your native language:

To not translate "triple low" and write "triple low" staat (lage alveolaire concentratie (MAC), lage bispectral index en lage minimum alveolaire concentratie van vluchtige anesthesie (correct the Dutch if I made a mistake) but give an explanation in parentheses).


For others who put a neutral: any suggestions made they were made not for gaining points but for knowing it is a field where I translated a lot of materials and articles.


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Note added at 3 days11 hrs (2016-08-01 08:38:36 GMT)
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And last but not least: I think it is no ones privilige to give an answer. Even a mouse can help the lion to gnawe the net and free him. A kindness is never wasted.

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Note added at 3 days11 hrs (2016-08-01 08:38:57 GMT)
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privilege, sorry

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Note added at 3 days11 hrs (2016-08-01 08:40:04 GMT)
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https://www.askideas.com/love-and-kindness-are-never-wasted-...

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Note added at 3 days16 hrs (2016-08-01 13:56:15 GMT)
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A UI string? (=a true nightmare. I am sorry for you. I wish the best of luck to finish your work.)

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Note added at 6 days (2016-08-04 15:27:30 GMT) Post-grading
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Hartelijk bedankt.

Erzsébet Czopyk
Hungary
Local time: 18:37
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Native speaker of: Native in HungarianHungarian
PRO pts in category: 2
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you for your contribution and research, Erzsébet. A literal translation feels very odd to me (it's not very common in Dutch anyway), so I decided to stick to the English term after all. I agree it would best be followed by a short Dutch explanation, but I forgot to mention that this is a UI string translation (oh the horror), so the shorter the better. :)


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agree  Ria van Eil: Inderdaad "triple low" staat ook in franse teksten in het engels tussen aanhalingstekens!
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