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those then representing them

French translation: ou ceux [= investissements] qui alors/à tel moment les représentent

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English term or phrase:those then representing them
French translation:ou ceux [= investissements] qui alors/à tel moment les représentent
Entered by: Audrey Canalès

14:13 Jun 29, 2017
English to French translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Certificates, Diplomas, Licenses, CVs / Contrat de mariage
English term or phrase: those then representing them
Dans un contrat de mariage, une clause mentione que le futur époux pourra faire des investissements au nom de la future épouse mais que si elle décède avant lui :

the investment thus made or those then representing them shall return to the future husband

je butte sur l'expression those then representing them, car j'ai du mal à saisir à quoi elle se réfère.
Audrey Canalès
Canada
Local time: 19:53
ou ceux [= investissements] qui alors/à tel moment les représentent
Explanation:
Nothing wrong with the most literal translation, more a problem of analysing the sentence the right way.

Although this version is far more easier to understand:

ou bien ceux [= les investissements] qui se sont substitués à l'investissement d'origine


the investment thus made = "thus made" => made in the name of the spouse
or
those then representing them = investments that are NOT the initial investment but are financed by the same funds i.e. whatever form this initial investment will have "then" [=at the time when the spouse has deceased], i.e. whichever else it was reinvested in after the initial/previous investments have been sold / liquidated / exchanged.

explanation:
the "investment" could have been done by buying a property A - later that property could have been sold and the proceeds reinvested in a say properties B and C. In that case the properties B and C would "represent" the initial investment in the property A - it's all coming from the same funds.

A bit unusual use for "to represent", but no ambiguities whatsoever as to the intended meaning.
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Daryo
United Kingdom
Local time: 00:53
Grading comment
merci beaucoup pour ton aide.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



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5 +2ou ceux [= investissements] qui alors/à tel moment les représentent
Daryo


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[the investment thus made] or those then representing them
ou ceux [= investissements] qui alors/à tel moment les représentent


Explanation:
Nothing wrong with the most literal translation, more a problem of analysing the sentence the right way.

Although this version is far more easier to understand:

ou bien ceux [= les investissements] qui se sont substitués à l'investissement d'origine


the investment thus made = "thus made" => made in the name of the spouse
or
those then representing them = investments that are NOT the initial investment but are financed by the same funds i.e. whatever form this initial investment will have "then" [=at the time when the spouse has deceased], i.e. whichever else it was reinvested in after the initial/previous investments have been sold / liquidated / exchanged.

explanation:
the "investment" could have been done by buying a property A - later that property could have been sold and the proceeds reinvested in a say properties B and C. In that case the properties B and C would "represent" the initial investment in the property A - it's all coming from the same funds.

A bit unusual use for "to represent", but no ambiguities whatsoever as to the intended meaning.


Daryo
United Kingdom
Local time: 00:53
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 18
Grading comment
merci beaucoup pour ton aide.
Notes to answerer
Asker: Merci Daryo!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  AllegroTrans
3 hrs
  -> Thanks!
agree  Christian Fournier
5 hrs
  -> Merci!
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