Register is now legally in my custody

French translation: je suis juriddépositaire du registre des naissances dont un extrait est délivré pour copie conforme

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English term or phrase:	Register is now legally in my custody
French translation:	je suis juriddépositaire du registre des naissances dont un extrait est délivré pour copie conforme
Entered by:	Marcombes (X)

16:54 Nov 27, 2017

English to French translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Certificates, Diplomas, Licenses, CVs

English term or phrase: Register is now legally in my custody

I must translate a "Certified copy of Entry in Register of Births" from England which a long sentence ending by

"a true copy of the entry N° 449 in the Register of Births for the said sub-district, and that such Register is now legally in my custody."
Thank you very much in advance fo your kind help and suggestions

Lucia28 KudoZ activity Questions: 393 (9 open) (16 without valid answers) (52 closed without grading) Answers: 0 France
Local time: 20:12

je suis juriddépositaire du registre des naissances dont un extrait est délivré pour copie conforme

Explanation:
je suis juridiquement dépositaire du registre des naissances dont je délivre un extrait certifiée conforme

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Marcombes (X)
France
Local time: 20:12

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copie certifiée.........légalement en ma possession

Maïté Mendiondo-George

3 +1

et que je suis le conservateur légal actuel de ce Registre

ph-b (X)

du registre dont je suis le détenteur légal.

Younes Marouf

4 -1

ledit Registre est présentement légalement en ma garde

Daryo

4 -1

je suis juriddépositaire du registre des naissances dont un extrait est délivré pour copie conforme

Marcombes (X)

Discussion entries: 5

Lucia28

France

ASKER

14:55 Nov 28, 2017

@ Daryo
The problem is to get the right terminology. I am not very familiar with these types of sentences and need to provide a clear and well translated document !

Lucia28

France

ASKER

It's a birth certificate

14:43 Nov 28, 2017

Actually I am translating a UK birth certificate into French which has this sentence at the ennd "I, xxx, Registrar of Births and Deaths for the Sub-disctrict of xxx, in the county of xxx, do hereby certify that this is a true copy of the entry xxx in the Register of Births for the said sub-district, and that such Register, is now legally in my custody.

Daryo

United Kingdom

About the same Birth Certificate

09:17 Nov 28, 2017

but more a reference for the other related question [misleadingly formulated, BTW]:

The General Register Office is part of Her Majesty's Passport Office and oversees civil registration in England and Wales. We maintain the national archive of all births, marriages and deaths dating back to 1837 and further information on our services can be found using the links shown below.

....

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

Daryo

United Kingdom

@ ph-b

09:13 Nov 28, 2017

" J’aimerais en savoir plus sur l'origine de cette garde (de plein droit ou suite à une action/décision ?)."

the clue is in the other related question:

https://www.proz.com/kudoz/english_to_french/certificates_di...

Certified to have been compiled from records in the custody of the Registrar General. Given at the General Registrar Office, London,

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/soc.genealogy.britai...

St. Catherine's House

Trying to find St. Catherine's House?

Following the closure of Somerset House in 1970, the central archive of public records such as birth, marriage & death certificates [= the one held by the "Registrar General"] were moved to St. Catherine's House. Both St.Catherine's House and Somerset House have now closed and currently no public counter service exists to obtain copy certificates nationally due to the closure also of the Family Records Centre. ....
https://www.vitalcertificates.co.uk/st-catherines-house.html

Daryo

United Kingdom

@ Asker

21:29 Nov 27, 2017

Where is the problem exactly?

Seems pretty straightforward to me.

What is your first draft translation?

Answers

37 mins confidence:

register is now legally in my custody copie certifiée.........légalement en ma possession

Explanation:
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Note added at 4 heures (2017-11-27 21:39:15 GMT)
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Oh ciel pardon !...
J 'avais traduit le début de la phrase et la fin

Le registre est maintenant légalement en ma possession

Maïté Mendiondo-George
France
Local time: 20:12
Native speaker of:

French,

German

Notes to answerer

Asker: Merci infiniment !

5 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): -1

such Register is now legally in my custody ledit Registre est présentement légalement en ma garde

Explanation:
such Register is now legally in my custody
=>
the said Register was initially held by someone else, but is now (for whatever reasons) in the custody of another Registrar, the one delivering a "certified copy" of one of the entries recorded in this Register.

more:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/soc.genealogy.britai...

Daryo
United Kingdom
Local time: 19:12
Native speaker of:

Serbian,

French
PRO pts in category: 18

13 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

et que je suis le conservateur légal actuel de ce Registre

Explanation:
custody, ça peut être la « garde » et en français, on « a/donne/confie la garde (juridique) de…».

Cf. par ex. https://www.dictionnaire-juridique.com/definition/garde.php

Traduit littéralement, ça donnerait «…et que j’ai [désormais ? actuellement ?] la garde juridique de ce Registre », avec comme variante possible : « … et qu’on m’a [désormais ? actuellement ?] donné/confié la garde juridique de ce Registre. »

Je n'aime pas trop la « garde d'un registre » ; ça fait un peu bizarre, tout ça… J’aimerais en savoir plus sur l'origine de cette garde (de plein droit ou suite à une action/décision ?). Que dit (en résumé) cette long sentence ending by, et notamment quel est le verbe qui vient avant and that (je « confirme » que… » ?).

Sinon, custody, c'est aussi la « conservation » et un registre peut très bien être « conservé ». Je me demande s'il ne faut pas chercher dans cette direction, d'où ma proposition.

ph-b (X)
France
Local time: 20:12
Native speaker of: French
PRO pts in category: 13

1 day 6 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): -1

je suis juriddépositaire du registre des naissances dont un extrait est délivré pour copie conforme

Explanation:
je suis juridiquement dépositaire du registre des naissances dont je délivre un extrait certifiée conforme

Marcombes (X)
France
Local time: 20:12
Native speaker of:

French
PRO pts in category: 4

Notes to answerer

Asker: Merci beaucoup pour cette phrase très complète !

274 days confidence:

Younes Marouf
United Kingdom
Native speaker of:

Arabic

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