open house wine vin maison
Explanation: sans nom, ni étiquette particulière, servi par verre ot/ou carafe, en principe, ce vin est préparé pour la consommation "de famille" et non pas pour des clients, en principe, je dis !
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9 hrs confidence: open house wine Vin de la maison
Explanation: Une alternative entre cuvée du patron et vin à la carafe. Il me semble l'avoir vu sur les menus en France
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1 hr confidence: open house wine vin de table
Explanation: This is not standard EN AFAIK, and I certinaly don't think we have the same concept in FR. I am assuming it means that you may be served from a bottle that is already opened; Asker, in your context, is this being priced per carafe or per glass, for example? In other words, you wan't get your own bottle opened specifically for you (unless, presumably, you actually order it by the bottle — is this one of the options?) In France, generally, this is what you would normally expect anyway with 'ordinary' wine (vin de table), and I really don't think it is necessary to specify; it is just taken for granted. Very often, of course, this may be BiB wine, for example, i.e. not even available in a bottle to start with.
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In EN, 'house wine' is something of a euphemism for 'any non-specific wine the establishment will sell you cheap' — though that's not to say that some of it isn't perfectly palatable. It's just a way of freeing the restaurant owner from having to stock some specific named wine, and also allows them to offer a cheaper alternative to some of the brnaded wines they might have on their wine list. Of course 'house' in this sense means 'the establishment' — nothing to do with 'home', where it might of course be confused with 'home-made' etc.!
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There is a world of difference between 'the house wine' (not further specified) which by definition is pretty much sure to be 'vin de table', especially if it is being sold by the carafe / pitcher, and 'a house wine' when it is one of a small number of specific, named wines just chosen by the proprietor as their 'basic' wine. To Asker: yes, 'vin de table' is also a general category of non-specific wine; but it is also the name given in a restaurant to what would be the 'house wine' in English — the waiter might say "Would you like to see the wine list, Madam?" and she might well reply "No thank you, just bring me a demi of 'vin de table'" I used to be in charge of the wine cellar in our Logis de France hotel-restaurant here in France.
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If this wine were bottled, and available as a whole bottle OR by carafe OR by the glass, then I think 'Cuvée du patron' could work; at worst, people will smile gently at the pretension of it. BUT as (from the only context we have) this is ONLY being sold in 0.5 l carafe, pitchers, or whatever, then it is extremely likely that this IS simply some kind of local 'plonk' — note the ref. comment provided by W/A: "house wine Wine that is bought in bulk and sold at a special price by a restaurant, bar, hotel, etc." This often equates to something in a cubi (BiB) etc., very much frowned upon, of course, by wine snobs, and ultimately usually with the status of 'plonk'. Anyway, 'vin de table' isn't NECESSARILY 'plonk' either — it just means a non-specific, unbranded wine — some of it is surprisingly palatable, it's not all 'Vieux Papes' or 'Viillageois'!
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'pichet de vin de table' = 19,500 Ghits
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'verre de vin de table' = 205,000 Ghits
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Reference information: Definition: House Wine. A wine featured by a restaurant and often served in a carafe or by the glass. Sometimes a winery does a special bottling and labels the wines for a restaurant. house wine a wine sold unnamed by a restaurant, at a lower price than wines specified on the wine list https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/hous... house wine NOUN mass noun Wine that is bought in bulk and sold at a special price by a restaurant, bar, hotel, etc. https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/house_wine
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Vin Maison French name for the house wine in a restaurant or bistro, which is served open (s pichet). Mostly it is a good local wine or wine-AC. http://www.encyclo.co.uk/meaning-of-Vin Maison
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