found his foil

French translation: a trouvé l’accord parfait

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English term or phrase:found his foil
French translation:a trouvé l’accord parfait
Entered by: Willa95

11:32 Jun 11, 2019
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English term or phrase: found his foil
Bonjour,

N'ayant jamais rencontré cette expression, pouvez-vous m'indiquer qu'il s'agit bien du sens de "find his foil" ici ? Auriez-vous d'autres suggestions ?

"Now with a new project and new music, he has found his foil in a quartet setting alongside saxophonist xxx."
"Revenant aujourd'hui avec un nouveau projet et des nouvelles compositions, l’artiste a trouvé sa place dans un quatuor aux côtés de la saxophoniste xxx."

Merci
Willa95
France
Local time: 23:37
a trouvé l’accord parfait
Explanation:
Maintenant de retour avec un nouveau projet et de [nouvelles harmonies] [nouveaux arrangements], il a trouvé l’accord parfait dans un quartet aux côtés de...

J’ai retenu l’idée de contraste, de complémentarité avancée dans la référence fournie par Florian dans la discussion :

A foil can be a character that contrasts with another character in one or more ways. They define each other by being what the other isn’t.
http://businessandbullets.com/find-your-foil/

et qui semble s’appliquer aux deux artistes :

A thoughtful pianist and arranger…
http://www.brayjazz.com/flanigan/
and muscular US saxophonist Meilana Gillard
https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/music/the-best-jazz-gigs-...

Par ailleurs, il s’agit d’un nouveau quartet à part entière (bien qu’un des nombreux articles qui reprennent ce texte mette Gillard en vedette) :
https://www.facebook.com/events/587875668360761/

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Germaine
Canada
Local time: 17:37
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Summary of answers provided
4trouver son clang/ trouver le bon clang
Justin Reeve
4il a trouvé son faire-valoir
FX Fraipont (X)
3 +1a trouvé l’accord parfait
Germaine


Discussion entries: 13





  

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9 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
trouver son clang/ trouver le bon clang


Explanation:
This usage seems to be a pun between the literary meaning of the term foil and the musical instrument.

Justin Reeve
Canada
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  GILLES MEUNIER: Je pense que les traductions dans la zone de discussion sont très pertinentes. Je suis d'accord sur cette idée de complément. L'idée est qu'ils se complètent...
6 hrs
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19 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
il a trouvé son faire-valoir


Explanation:
foil
a person or thing that makes another seem better by contrast: The straight man was an able foil to the comic.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/foil

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Note added at 20 mins (2019-06-11 11:52:51 GMT)
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pas vraiment "trouvé sa place"...

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Note added at 1 day 9 hrs (2019-06-12 21:24:36 GMT)
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"foil
A person or thing that contrasts with and so emphasizes and enhances the qualities of another.
‘his white cravat was a perfect foil for his bronzed features’"
https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/foil

FX Fraipont (X)
Belgium
Local time: 23:37
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 1529

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Francois Boye
1 hr

neutral  Germaine: dit comme ça, c’est pas gentil pour le groupe en question. Le sens est plus "complémentaire" que "seem better by contrast".
8 hrs
  -> acts as a foil = allows him to shine.

disagree  Gregory Lassale: Agreed with Germaine.
1 day 9 hrs
  -> sorry, but it's the exact meaning of "act as a foil". This is supposed to be translation ...
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2 days 2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
a trouvé l’accord parfait


Explanation:
Maintenant de retour avec un nouveau projet et de [nouvelles harmonies] [nouveaux arrangements], il a trouvé l’accord parfait dans un quartet aux côtés de...

J’ai retenu l’idée de contraste, de complémentarité avancée dans la référence fournie par Florian dans la discussion :

A foil can be a character that contrasts with another character in one or more ways. They define each other by being what the other isn’t.
http://businessandbullets.com/find-your-foil/

et qui semble s’appliquer aux deux artistes :

A thoughtful pianist and arranger…
http://www.brayjazz.com/flanigan/
and muscular US saxophonist Meilana Gillard
https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/music/the-best-jazz-gigs-...

Par ailleurs, il s’agit d’un nouveau quartet à part entière (bien qu’un des nombreux articles qui reprennent ce texte mette Gillard en vedette) :
https://www.facebook.com/events/587875668360761/



Germaine
Canada
Local time: 17:37
Works in field
Native speaker of: French
PRO pts in category: 88

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Anaïs G.
15 hrs
  -> Merci, Anaïs.
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