cartridge paper

French translation: papier à dessiner

14:26 Jan 7, 2015
English to French translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Photography/Imaging (& Graphic Arts)
English term or phrase: cartridge paper
Bonjour à tous,

dans un livre sur les mangas, il est question de "cartridge paper" et de "watercolour paper" (papier aquarelle). Le texte dit que le "cartridge paper" est moins épais que le papier aquarelle et est idéal pour les crayons de couleur, les pastels et les feutres. Je n'arrive pas à trouver à quoi cela correspond en français. Du papier Canson (mais le terme "Canson paper" semble exister) ? Tout simplement du "papier à dessin" ?
Auriez-vous une idée ?
Je vous remercie de votre aide.
Anne Rémond
France
Local time: 09:06
French translation:papier à dessiner
Explanation:
auparavant les craies ou pastels étaient mises dans un tube "porte crayon" dans lequel on les enfonçait et qui servait de manche et pour ne pas se salir les doigts, d'où le nom de "cartridge paper"

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http://thumbs3.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mA_JwykHCE0I-cMUcTH1U...

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merci, contre vents et marées
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HERBET Abel
Local time: 09:06
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J'ai opté finalement pour "papier à dessin", car cela correspond au niveau du grammage et des usages. Ce n'est peut-être pas exactement la même chose, mais c'est ce qui m'a semblé le plus approchant. Merci à tous.
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Summary of answers provided
4 +4papier à cartouche
Irene Chalmers Preire
4papier à croquis
HERBET Abel
4 -1papier crayon
HERBET Abel
3papier fort
Tony M
4 -2papier à dessiner
HERBET Abel


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papier à cartouche


Explanation:
I have vague memories of cartridge paper from my school days. It was usually fairly rough and thicker than jotter paper. Here's what Termium has to offer:

http://www.btb.termiumplus.gc.ca/tpv2alpha/alpha-eng.html?la...



    Reference: http://www.btb.termiumplus.gc.ca/tpv2alpha/alpha-eng.html?la...
Irene Chalmers Preire
France
Local time: 09:06
Native speaker of: English

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Joco
12 mins
  -> Thank you

agree  TB CommuniCAT: http://gdt.oqlf.gouv.qc.ca/ficheOqlf.aspx?Id_Fiche=2092943
8 hrs
  -> Thank you

agree  B D Finch
1 day 2 hrs

agree  Simo Blom
1 day 3 hrs
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1 day 8 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
papier crayon


Explanation:
aussi utilisé

HERBET Abel
Local time: 09:06
Native speaker of: French
PRO pts in category: 18

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disagree  GILLES MEUNIER: cartridge = cartouche
15 hrs
  -> on n'est pas à l'armée
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papier à croquis


Explanation:
proposé

HERBET Abel
Local time: 09:06
Native speaker of: French
PRO pts in category: 18
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papier fort


Explanation:
According to R+C

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Major paper manufacturer Clairefontaine also mentions 'papier dessin technique' which, although long-winded, does have the advantage of being explicit:

http://www.clairefontaine.com/papier-dessin/

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Perhaps more interesting, Clairefontaine, within its descriptions of different types of 'papier dessin' (for fine arts uses) mentions 'dry and wet techniques', making the intended arts usage clearer. 'papier dessin technique' is mentioned separately from these art types.

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Found this fascianting blog article when looking for a definitive description of cartridge paper in EN:

http://makingamark.blogspot.fr/2008/09/what-is-cartridge-pap...

Tony M
France
Local time: 09:06
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 94
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Asker: Merci beaucoup pour votre aide, Tony.

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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -2
papier à dessiner


Explanation:
auparavant les craies ou pastels étaient mises dans un tube "porte crayon" dans lequel on les enfonçait et qui servait de manche et pour ne pas se salir les doigts, d'où le nom de "cartridge paper"

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http://thumbs3.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mA_JwykHCE0I-cMUcTH1U...

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merci, contre vents et marées

HERBET Abel
Local time: 09:06
Native speaker of: French
PRO pts in category: 18
Grading comment
J'ai opté finalement pour "papier à dessin", car cela correspond au niveau du grammage et des usages. Ce n'est peut-être pas exactement la même chose, mais c'est ce qui m'a semblé le plus approchant. Merci à tous.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  B D Finch: Il n'est pas n'importe quel papier à dessiner. Votre explication est fausse, c'était utilisé pour des cartouches des armes à feu. Beaucoup trop épais pour les craies et pastels lesquels sont toujours vendus dans un tube de papier fin.
1 day 1 hr

disagree  Tony M: Mere 'drawing paper' often does not have the kind of surface suitable for 'cartridge paper'
7 days
  -> alors je ne sais pas plus : gros grain ???
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