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English to French translations [PRO] Slang / South African English
English term or phrase:whatchamacallit rules
A sea of young ladies in various states of undress, fashionable platform shoes and made-in-Bombay, mail-order human hair wigs, weaves and whatchamacallit rules, ok? Few men wear suits.
Je comprends tous les mots, mais pas la syntaxe... Qu'est-ce qui "rules" ? L'océan de jeunes femmes court vêtues ? Et le groupe qualificatif "made-in-Bombay, mail-order human hair" s'applique-t-il bien à "wigs, weaves and whatchamacallit" ? > "perruques, postiches et bidules en cheveux véritables et fabriqués à Bombay”
Bref, je m'y perds
SVP, je sais que cette question est "limite" par rapport aux règles de KudoZ, merci d'avance de votre indulgence... et de votre aide :-)
Yes, but this is street language, and the rules of grammar don't apply, or only shakily...
I'm just not convinced that 'rule OK?' sits very well with 'sea of young ladies'; in any case, there would often be a tendency in EN to treat the young ladies as plural, sea or not (we've had discussions before about singular or plural with collective nouns) — I rather see it as being the list of whatnots that is being lumped together as a single entity describing a certain fashion (?) style.
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@Tony
16:28 Apr 24, 2012
Not in the examples I've found: Actual Examples: Dandys Rule, OK? KC RULES OK
Parodies: Heisenberg probably Rules, OK? James Bond rules, OOK? Dyslexics lure, KO. Potassium Ethoxide rules C2H5OK Dandys Rule OK - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dandys_Rule_OK Dandys Rule OK is the debut studio album by American alternative rock band The Dandy Warhols. It was released on 6 April 1995 on Tim/Kerr Records. The Goodies Rule – O.K.? - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Goodies_Rule_–_O.K.%3F "The Goodies Rule OK" — Robert Ross, Carlton Books Ltd, Sydney, 2006; "From Fringe to Flying Circus — 'Celebrating a Unique Generation of Comedy ...
... I (almost) get it. If I understand your explanation, young ladies, shoes, wigs, weaves and whatchamacallit are all part of a listing of things that are "de rigueur"? And that's all, no verb then?
I think the 'rules OK?' (traditional UK graffiti tag line) applies to the whole of the foregoing list (which is left otherwise without a verb):
"fashionable platform shoes and made-in-Bombay, mail-order human hair wigs, weaves and whatchamacallit rules, ok?"
And 'human hair wigs' (only) is qualified by both 'mail-order' and 'made-in-Bombay'
So 'rules OK?' is something like 'de rigueur' in a humorous sense — everyone is wearing the same kind of things, or at least, these things sum up in a nutshell the general fashion style of the gathering...
BTW, I don't think it's specifically S.A. slang — this sounds very familiar to me in the UK too.
'X rules, OK?' is the type of expression I grew up with in the '60s, and is a sort of 'street' way of saying something like 'vive X !' — but in your context, it is being used differently, a bit of a 'play on words', really as if it meant just 'rules' or 'is the rule'; the idea is perhaps a bit like the notion of 'régnant'.
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teeshirts with printed slogan (....Rules OK")
Explanation: My first reading made me imagine this. There are a whole series of (silly) teeshirts with "Apathy Rules OK" printed on the front (or back). The whatchamacollit is like saying "whatever, you name it" . A shot in the dark? SO it does not apply to the ladies' hair pieces. The following reference to what the men wear might bear this out ?
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