O, devotees! = रे भक्तों or रे भक्तो (?)

Hindi translation: रे भक्तो! / हे भक्तो!

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English term or phrase:	O, devotees!
Hindi translation:	रे भक्तो! / हे भक्तो!
Entered by:	C.M. Rawal

10:17 Sep 23, 2008

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English term or phrase: O, devotees! = रे भक्तों or रे भक्तो (?)

Hi,

This occurs in the जय संतोषी माँ song.

My question – if a plural noun is vocative (i.e. someone is being addressed), doesn't it lose the nasal element?

In other words,
not आओ रे भक्तों यह माता है सबकी हमजोली
but आओ रे भक्तो यह माता है सबकी हमजोली

रे, if I understand rightly, is like Eng. “o”, i.e. it shows someone is being addressed, so after रे, भक्तों becomes भक्तो...

I seem to remember reading something to this effect in McGregor's Hindi course, but do not have the book with me.

I know this is a seeming small difference, but am I right, please?

Best wishes

Simon

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रे भक्तो

Explanation:
Yes, you are right. If a plural noun is vocative (i.e. someone is being addressed), it losse the nasal element and, therefore,
not आओ रे भक्तों यह माता है सबकी हमजोली
but आओ रे भक्तो यह माता है सबकी हमजोली is correct.

While we address to a group of people or gathering, we say,

देवियो और सज्जनो, भाइयो और बहनो, बंधुओ, मित्रो, दोस्तो, भक्तो etc.

I am glad to know that you know this seemingly small difference, and you are perfectly right.

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C.M. Rawal
India
Local time: 10:09

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thank you so much for such a good clarification of what is obviously a complex matter.
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रे भक्तो

C.M. Rawal

हे भक्तों or हे भक्तजनों

suraj jaiswal

भक्तो stands for devotees and भक्तों for devotees'

Ramesh Bhatt

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16 mins confidence:

o, devotees! = रे भक्तों or रे भक्तो (?) भक्तो stands for devotees and भक्तों for devotees'

Explanation:
The difference in the two is: devotee means भक्त
devotee's means भक्त का
In plural form you have O' devotees रे भक्तो, रे श्रदालुजनो
and devotees' (prayers) भक्तों की (प्रार्थना)

Ramesh Bhatt
Nepal
Local time: 10:24
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

Urdu,

English

1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): +5

o, devotees! = रे भक्तों or रे भक्तो (?)

रे भक्तो

C.M. Rawal
India
Local time: 10:09
Native speaker of: Hindi

Grading comment

thank you so much for such a good clarification of what is obviously a complex matter.

2 days 7 hrs confidence:

o, devotees! = रे भक्तों or रे भक्तो (?) हे भक्तों or हे भक्तजनों

Explanation:
not required

suraj jaiswal
Italy
Local time: 06:39
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Hindi

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