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to win somebody's bones

Italian translation: to make one\'s bone + to win one\'s spurs

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English term or phrase:to win somebody's bones
Italian translation:to make one\'s bone + to win one\'s spurs
Entered by: hsaxton

16:37 Oct 17, 2007
English to Italian translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Slang
English term or phrase: to win somebody's bones
A sentence from an American film:

Carmelino icily refuses to tell him where she is, even when Joe slams him against the wall with a gun at his head. He can’t shoot him because Carmelino has been deputed to win his bones by hunting down the saboteurs alongside Joe.
hsaxton
Italy
Local time: 10:06
to make one's bone + to win one's spurs
Explanation:
Credo sia una via di mezzo tra le due espressioni, nel senso di "farsi le ossa e dimostrare di saperci fare"

make (one’s) bones
v. to kill a person as requirement for membership in a criminal gang, especially if it is one’s first murder; to become a made man; (hence) to earn a reputation.

to win one's spurs, to achieve distinction or success for the first time; prove one's ability or worth: Our team hasn't won its spurs yet.

Cfr. Castro won his bones as a Marxist leader.
http://mangoparchia.blogspot.com/2006/02/three-who-are-makin...

Cfr. Wilson won his bones, as Mo Green might say, by his study of ants and doubtless is the world authority on anthill society.
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2040319.stm

IT WOULD BE PROPER FOR BUSH TO LEAD THESE NEW SACRIFICIAL LAMBS INTO BATTLE! WE NEED HIS STYLE OF BLOOD AND GUTS IN ACTUAL WAR. HOW ELSE IS HE TO GET A FEEL FOR IED'S AND SUCH SORT OF MACHO THINGS. TIME HE WON HIS BONES.
http://www.b12partners.net/mt/archives/2006/12/farewell_dens...
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Leonardo Marcello Pignataro (X)
Local time: 10:06
Grading comment
Thanks Leonardo. Your example sentences were also very helpful in putting sense to the expression!
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Summary of answers provided
4si è affermato / si è fatto una reputazione
irenef
3to make one's bone + to win one's spurs
Leonardo Marcello Pignataro (X)
3si è guadagnato la sua fiducia
Gianni Pastore


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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
to make one's bone + to win one's spurs


Explanation:
Credo sia una via di mezzo tra le due espressioni, nel senso di "farsi le ossa e dimostrare di saperci fare"

make (one’s) bones
v. to kill a person as requirement for membership in a criminal gang, especially if it is one’s first murder; to become a made man; (hence) to earn a reputation.

to win one's spurs, to achieve distinction or success for the first time; prove one's ability or worth: Our team hasn't won its spurs yet.

Cfr. Castro won his bones as a Marxist leader.
http://mangoparchia.blogspot.com/2006/02/three-who-are-makin...

Cfr. Wilson won his bones, as Mo Green might say, by his study of ants and doubtless is the world authority on anthill society.
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2040319.stm

IT WOULD BE PROPER FOR BUSH TO LEAD THESE NEW SACRIFICIAL LAMBS INTO BATTLE! WE NEED HIS STYLE OF BLOOD AND GUTS IN ACTUAL WAR. HOW ELSE IS HE TO GET A FEEL FOR IED'S AND SUCH SORT OF MACHO THINGS. TIME HE WON HIS BONES.
http://www.b12partners.net/mt/archives/2006/12/farewell_dens...

Leonardo Marcello Pignataro (X)
Local time: 10:06
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Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian
PRO pts in category: 15
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Thanks Leonardo. Your example sentences were also very helpful in putting sense to the expression!
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
si è guadagnato la sua fiducia


Explanation:
dal resto della frase mi pare di capire questo, visto che dice di aver sgominato i sabotatori che si annidavano nelle fila di Joe

Gianni Pastore
Italy
Local time: 10:06
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian
PRO pts in category: 26
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
si è affermato / si è fatto una reputazione


Explanation:
il senso è quello. Poi ci sono diverse varianti...

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Note added at 5 hrs (2007-10-17 21:48:25 GMT)
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to win one's bones

irenef
Local time: 10:06
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Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian, Native in EnglishEnglish
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