Without struggle there's no progress

12:13 Sep 11, 2014
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English term or phrase: Without struggle there's no progress
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Nicolas Bonsignore
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5 +1Sine luctatione nullus progressus est.
Joseph Brazauskas
2Sine certamine est non profectus
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without struggle there's no progress
Sine certamine est non profectus


Explanation:
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AKhram
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Asker: Thanks. I feel "profectus", as "progressus" means "progress in the study". I'm looking for a more generic term. What do you think?


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neutral  Joseph Brazauskas: 'Non est profectus' would be the more natural word order.
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without struggle there's no progress
Sine luctatione nullus progressus est.


Explanation:
'Luctatio' means literally 'wrestling' but is used metaphorically of any 'struggle' by Cicero, Livy, and other classical authors.

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Note added at 6 hrs (2014-09-11 18:34:02 GMT)
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'Progressio' means 'progress, advancement' in a more general sense. Save, however, for one instance (Quintilian, Institutio Oratoria, 9.1.33, who uses it in the sense of a 'rhetorical) climax'), it is found in no other author besides Cicero, although I should imagine that Cicero's authority should suffice. Cicero uses it in the same sense as does Quintilian at 'de oratore' 3.54.206 but more commonly he employs it in a non-technical sense, e.g.:

de finibus, 5.21.58: "omnium rerum principia parva sunt, sed suis progressionibus una augentur", "The elements of everything are small but by means of their own progress they increase together".

Tusculanae Disputationes, 4.1.1: "Tum progressio admirabilis incredibilisque cursus ad omnem excellentiam factus est dominatu regio re publica liberata", "Then a remarkable progress and incredible impetus towards every excellence occurred after the Republic was set free from royal domination".


Joseph Brazauskas
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Asker: Thanks. I feel "profectus", as "progressus" means "progress in the study". I'm looking for a more generic term. What do you think?


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agree  BrigitteHilgner: Probably requested for yet another tattoo ...
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  -> That seems likely. Thank you.
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