proxy war campaign

Polish translation: socially-inspired campaign, usually directed against a company

21:31 Oct 13, 2010
English to Polish translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - International Org/Dev/Coop / organizacje pozarządowe
English term or phrase: proxy war campaign
dwa przykłady:

Extreme advocacy or “radical” NGOs are, by definition, working against the mainstream of their societies – either in terms of values and beliefs or in terms of regulatory systems – and fundamentally aim for change. As such, radical NGOs, at first blush, should not be very effective, particularly in proxy war campaigns.

Proxy wars – a form of “social movement” campaign – are designed to challenge and change the institutional framework, whether in terms of the formal regulatory and legal systems or accepted social norms and values.

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Poland
Local time: 17:11
Polish translation:socially-inspired campaign, usually directed against a company
Explanation:
You can read all the details in Google Books in: http://books.google.es/books?id=QBLZfywCoJMC&pg=PA115&lpg=PA... name of book: Strategies, markets and governance: exploring commercial and regulatory agendas
by Ralf Boscheck

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Note added at 15 mins (2010-10-13 21:47:25 GMT)
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The idea of "proxy" is the attacking or protesting party tries to make indirect attacks through a third party so that it is not directly involved. In some cases, they are not "socially oriented" although in your text it appears that they are: a proxy war against Google, using smaller companies to fight its battles. ... Is Microsoft orchestrating a campaign against Google, or does the search ...
www.pcworld.com/.../antitrust_rhetoric_heats_up_between_goo... - En caché
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Jenni Lukac (X)
Local time: 17:11
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Thank you for your explanation. It’s helpful however I was actually looking for polish term. Thanks anyway
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4socially-inspired campaign, usually directed against a company
Jenni Lukac (X)
4konflikt zastępczy
Crannmer


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socially-inspired campaign, usually directed against a company


Explanation:
You can read all the details in Google Books in: http://books.google.es/books?id=QBLZfywCoJMC&pg=PA115&lpg=PA... name of book: Strategies, markets and governance: exploring commercial and regulatory agendas
by Ralf Boscheck

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Note added at 15 mins (2010-10-13 21:47:25 GMT)
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The idea of "proxy" is the attacking or protesting party tries to make indirect attacks through a third party so that it is not directly involved. In some cases, they are not "socially oriented" although in your text it appears that they are: a proxy war against Google, using smaller companies to fight its battles. ... Is Microsoft orchestrating a campaign against Google, or does the search ...
www.pcworld.com/.../antitrust_rhetoric_heats_up_between_goo... - En caché

Jenni Lukac (X)
Local time: 17:11
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Native speaker of: English
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Thank you for your explanation. It’s helpful however I was actually looking for polish term. Thanks anyway
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konflikt zastępczy


Explanation:
konflikt zastępczy

konflikt, w którym strony nie występują bezpośrednio przeciw sobie, lecz poprzez inne, im podrzędne, podmioty

Kampanie bym tutaj pominął, bo jest to tylko człon nadmiarowy, nie wnoszący nic do samej treści podanych kontekstów.

Cale wyrażenie brzmi oczywiście
kampania konfliktu zastępczego/wojny zastępczej

Patrz
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wojna_zastępcza


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Note added at 5 Tage (2010-10-19 12:03:35 GMT)
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Skoro oryginał używa wyrażenia proxy war w znaczeniu kompletnie przenośnym, to nie widzę przeszkód, aby i w tłumaczeniu nie użyć odpowiednika tego wyrażenia. I tu również znaczeniu przenośnym, oczywistym dla czytelnika. Przenośnia jest tak widoczna, ze nawet cudzysłowu nie trzeba stosować.



Crannmer
Local time: 17:11
Notes to answerer
Asker: Nie wiem czy w przypadku organizacji pozarządowych możemy mówić o "konflikcie" czy też "wojnie", bo w tym kontekście "proxy war" oznacza rodzaj kampanii społecznej. Zastanawiam się nad tłumaczeniem: kampania pośrednia (ewentualnie niebezpośrednia).

Asker: Wydawnictwo zaakceptowało tłumaczenie "kampania pośrednia"

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