competing failure modes

Serbian translation: Konkurentni modusi otkaza

08:02 Dec 16, 2012
English to Serbian translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Engineering (general)
English term or phrase: competing failure modes
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12206-011-0415-y?L...
nzirojevic
Local time: 08:24
Serbian translation:Konkurentni modusi otkaza
Explanation:
Apstrakt članka donekle pojašnjava pojam:
- Radi se o analizi više različitih modusa (načina) otkaza ili pogoršanja performanse sistema
- različiti modusi pojavljuju se istovremeno, i njihov ukupan efekat se uzima u obzir

Pošto se radi o inovatnivnom radu, lako je moguće da je i pomenuti izraz sasvim nov, i da nije ranije bio prevođen na srpski.
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Summary of answers provided
3 +2Konkurentni modusi otkaza
Strahinja Lukić (X)
4...korišćenjem suprotstavljenih modela nastanka kvara...
Nenad Radosavljević
4 -1zajednički način otkaza/kvara
LogosART
3вишеструки начини отказа / квара
Daryo
3 -1poređenje vrsta kvara
Sandra Relji (X)


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poređenje vrsta kvara


Explanation:
zgodan tekst iz kojeg možete da zaključite šta je u pitanju:
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12206-011-0415-y?L...

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Note added at 14 mins (2012-12-16 08:16:38 GMT)
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greška,
ubacila sam pogrešan link:
http://www.reliasoft.com/newsletter/4q2001/modes.htm

Sandra Relji (X)
Serbia
Local time: 08:24
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Mira Stepanovic: "Competing" ovde nije glagol i nema značenje "poređenje"; iz vaše reference: With this approach, the failure modes “compete” as to which one causes the failure for each particular unit. http://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/competing
1 hr

disagree  Daryo: Једноставно не штима; у питању је "такмичење" између више могућих узрока отказа / квара
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zajednički način otkaza/kvara


Explanation:
Competing Failure Modes Analysis
For many products, there are multiple failure modes that can result in the failure of an individual unit. When performing reliability analysis on this type of product, you can take the view that each individual unit could fail due to any one of the possible failure modes and, since an item cannot fail more than one time in a non-repairable system, that there can only be one failure mode for each failed unit. With this approach, the failure modes “compete” as to which one causes the failure for each particular unit. This can be represented in a reliability block diagram as a series system in which a block represents each failure mode.

zajednički način otkaza/kvara

Termin ''zajednički način kvara'' opisuje zajednički uzrok kvara što djeluje na funkcionalno identične komponente ili podsustave, tj. duplicirane ili redundantne, dakle paralelne komponente ili podsustave što obavljaju istu funkciju. Mehanizme koji doprinose ili uzrokuju zajednički način kvarova moguće je karakterizirati ovako: konstrukcijske pogrješke; razlike u kontroli proizvodnje i kvalitete; pogrješke prilikom testiranja, održavanja i popravljanja; pogrješke ljudi; promjene okolice (onečišćenje, temperatura, tlak, vlažnost, vibracije itd.); okolnosti što se javljaju tijekom rada komponenti ili postrojenja (promjene
opterećenja, kvarovi, popravci) [1].

12. RCM TERMINOLOGIJA I IKONCEPT RCM TERMINOLOGIJA KONCEPT Definicija: NAČIN OTKAZA – Specificirano fizičko stanje koje uzrokuje određeni funkcionalni otkaz 2. FAILURE MODE - A specific physical condition that causes a particular functional failure
http://www.slideshare.net/marinko/rcm-terminologija-i-koncep...

failure mode
način otkaza
http://www.mvm.fink.rs/journal/sajt/image/mobility2005/monog...

način kvarova
http://www2.emersonprocess.com/siteadmincenter/PM Rosemount ...

• identifikaciju načina otkaza i
• utvrdjivanje uzroka otkaza.
Način otkaza se definiše kao fizički i/ili hemijski proces koji dovodi do gubitka zadate funkcije i pojava ili simptoma koji su prouzrokovani procesom otkaza. Uzroci otkaza su inženjerski uslovi (inženjerski nedostaci) koji dovode do registrovanog otkaza.
http://tribolab.mas.bg.ac.rs/proceedings/2003/271-275.pdf

Procedure for failure mode and effects analysis (FMEA)
Postupci analize načina otkaza i njihovih efekata (FMEA)

Izvor: Katalog jugoslovenskih standarda i propisaza 1999. godinu


LogosART
Croatia
Local time: 08:24
Native speaker of: Dutch
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Daryo: Офрље превод који се нико није потрудио да побољша -- competing = који се такмиче '-- откада је такмичење исто што и заједништво?
4 hrs
  -> Dear Daryo, please consider the meaning of the expression. "Competing" in this context has nothing to do with "takmičenje, etc. (See references). "Granted, this is not a literal, but a meaning-based rendering. That's what translating all about! Kind regar
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вишеструки начини отказа / квара


Explanation:
competing failure modes

failure modes = more than one failure mode

competing =
-- acting each on their own i.e. each "failure mode" is capable of causing a failure without any need to act "together" with another failure mode,
-- only one "failure mode" can win - the system can fail only once.

=>

"вишеструки начини отказа / квара који се такмиче ко ће први да онеспособи систем"

this being a bit too long, the question is what to keep and what to leave implied.

"начини отказа / квара" must stay - in plural

My feeling is that keeping "вишеструки" should be enough.
The key part of this concept is that there is more than one way for the system to fail.
"competing" is just a catchy figure of speech used to say that the system can fail only once - the fist "failure mode" to stop the system has won in a sense that no other "failure mode" can fail the system again.


Daryo
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Mira Stepanovic: "višestruki" bi bilo "multiple" u svakom tehničkom tekstu, to nije suština ovog pojma. / But that is not the point here.
12 hrs
  -> these modes are "multiple" for sure - there's more than one – as well as "competing" as a Hard Disk, for example, can fail from only one cause/mode of failure; as I said, it's abbreviated from a longer and more accurate version, so not perfect.
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Konkurentni modusi otkaza


Explanation:
Apstrakt članka donekle pojašnjava pojam:
- Radi se o analizi više različitih modusa (načina) otkaza ili pogoršanja performanse sistema
- različiti modusi pojavljuju se istovremeno, i njihov ukupan efekat se uzima u obzir

Pošto se radi o inovatnivnom radu, lako je moguće da je i pomenuti izraz sasvim nov, i da nije ranije bio prevođen na srpski.


Strahinja Lukić (X)
Serbia
Local time: 08:24
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Mira Stepanovic: Apsolutno!
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agree  Daryo: Пије воду!
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...korišćenjem suprotstavljenih modela nastanka kvara...


Explanation:
Reliability prediction of engineering systems with competing failure modes due to component degradation.
Predviđanje pouzdanosti inženjerskih sistema korišćenjem suprotstavljenih modela nastanka kvara, kao posledice propadanja pojedinačnih komponenti.

Nenad Radosavljević
Serbia
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