probe

Serbian translation: sonda, uzorak, ispitivanje

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English term or phrase:probe
Serbian translation:sonda, uzorak, ispitivanje
Entered by: Ana_pg

11:28 Jun 29, 2013
English to Serbian translations [PRO]
Science - Engineering (general)
English term or phrase: probe
Ja sam mislila da su ovo sonde, medjutim, izgleda da je to neka vrsta busotina?

- During the survey geological work, a complete primary documentation will be kept, comprising:
• Petrographic contents of survey probes including information on water saturation and the indicative depth of the detected groundwater (GW) level; ...

- Hydrogeological survey (HGS) will cover a number of activities designed to assess the hydrogeological (HG) conditions at the site and its surroundings. This includes a study of archive documents, probe and sampling work and their geological documentation, regime measurements, measurements of physical-chemical (P-CH) parametres, hydrodynamic tests, GW flow direction measurements, ...

- In order to detect heavy metals HM there could be used such devices as XRF analyzer (a portable unit based on the X-ray fluorescence spectrometers), for volatile organic/semi-volatile contaminants it could be a portable device of ECOprobe type.

- Exploratory objects will be carried out by penetration probes into the depth of about 0,5 – 1,0 m, a diameter 30 mm. This preliminary specification of occurence of contaminated and uncontaminated materials could be carried out in any other suitable method/device.

- The level of GW will be measured in all the probes. HG conditions of the site will be determined by the assessment of HG survey.

- To determine the method of founding the objects (especially objects 1 and 2), a total of 12 excavated probes is proposed to reveal the base foundations.Their depth is assumed to be max 5 m.

- In order to verify geological conditions and spatial extent of contamination in unsaturated zone of MPP there will be carried out no more than 50 shallow narrow profile penetration probes (45 mm) to GW level. Maximum reachable depth of the probes in the given environment is about 3 m (variable). From these probes there will be taken samples of solids.

- In places where the terrain is impermeable for penetration probes and in places with assumed deeper reach of contamination there will be drilled probes of diameter min 110 mm. Probes will be drilled by a core method.

- A possible alternative for boreholes will be the excavated probes. In total, there will be about 25 boreholes/excavated probes. The depth of these probes will be chosen flexibly with regard to hydrogeological conditions at the site – to prevent undesirable spread of contamination. The probes will be stopped on the surface of permanent aquifer (expected depth is max 5 m).

- Overall, the horizontal and vertical surveying will be made in the following objects:
• geochemical points – 600 pcs
• penetration probes – 50 pcs
• drilled probes – 25 pcs
• excavated probes – 12
Ana_pg
Local time: 10:06
sonda, uzorak, ispitivanje
Explanation:
ref. Rudarsko geološki r., Stanislav Verbić
ref. Rudarski rečnik, Rudarski institut, Beograd, grupa autora
Pojam je višeznačan i moraćete da ga prevodite od slučaja do slučaja a zavisnosti od konkretnog konteksta.

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Radi se o sondiranju tla, buše se sonde, ima puno primera na internetu:
http://www.imenik.rs/info.php?id=15319
SONDIRANJE TLA I ANALIZA, GEOMEHANIČARSKI RADOVI, GEOLOŠKA ISPITIVANJA
http://www.kons.gov.ba/main.php?id_struct=6&lang=1&action=vi...
U cilju pronalaženja tragova fresko slikarstva, koje su zabilježili navedeni očevici, kada je 80-tih godina 20. vijeka vršeno sondiranje u porti crkve, izbušeno je i više desetina sondi u malterima starijeg dijela, ali nisu pronađeni tragovi fresaka.

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Evo i nastavka prethodnog teksta:
Međutim, prema tvrdnji Kajmakovića, ispitivanja strukture maltera jasno su pokazala da je crkva imala fresko dekoracije, što su potvrdili i nalazi u jednoj sondi u porti crkve. Na udaljenosti od 25 m, na zapadnoj strani hrama, na dubini od oko 2 m, pronađeni su fragmenti fresko slikarstva.

Jednostavno: "probe" nema isto značenje u svim rečenicama koje ste naveli ali se radi o raznim načinima sondiranja tla i raznim vrstama sondi.
Npr., u vašoj rečenici:
- Exploratory objects will be carried out by penetration probes into the depth of about 0,5 – 1,0 m, a diameter 30 mm. This preliminary specification of occurence of contaminated and uncontaminated materials could be carried out in any other suitable method/device.

Ovo je npr. jedna vrsta penetracionih sondi (penetration probes"):
http://www.hannainst.com/usa/prods2.cfm?id=038007&ProdCode=H...
Soil Test™ Direct Soil EC Tester

Replaceable 122 mm (4.5”) penetration probe
Automatic Temperature Compensation
Lightweight and portable

The HI 98331 Soil Test™ is a pocket tester specifically designed to directly measure soil conductivity and temperature. With a temperature sensor in the penetration probe, measurements are automatically temperature compensated.

Sledeće navodim samo kao ilustraciju terminologije, ne ulazeći u to za šta ova penetraciona sonda služi:
http://www.ekapija.com/dokumenti/testo_energetska_efikasnost...
Bezicna imeriziona / penetraciona sonda NTC
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Mira Stepanovic
Serbia
Local time: 10:06
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4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
5 +2sonda, uzorak, ispitivanje
Mira Stepanovic
3сондирање
Olivera R


  

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13 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
сондирање


Explanation:
Мислим да је овде реч о истражном бушењу/истражним бушотинама (borehole; изводи се машинском гарнитуром) и истражном сондирању/сондажним бушотинама (probe; изводи се ручном гарнитуром). (A possible alternative for boreholes will be the excavated probes. In total, there will be about 25 boreholes/excavated probes...)
Овде имате нешто о томе http://www.geopro.rs/structure/lat/geotehnika.html



Olivera R
Local time: 10:06
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian
PRO pts in category: 19
Notes to answerer
Asker: Hvala na pomoci!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Mira Stepanovic: Tačno je da se radi o sondiranju ali ako želimo da budemo precizni "sondiranje" je "probing". / Upravo sam i ja to rekla - neće biti isti prevod za "probe" u svim navedenim rečenicama, mora se pažljivo ići od slučaja do slučaja.
7 hrs
  -> Сондирање је само једна од опција. Дато је превише реченица, и сматрам да превод зависи од случаја, до случаја. У одговору сам понудила и ''сондажна бушотина''.
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16 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +2
sonda, uzorak, ispitivanje


Explanation:
ref. Rudarsko geološki r., Stanislav Verbić
ref. Rudarski rečnik, Rudarski institut, Beograd, grupa autora
Pojam je višeznačan i moraćete da ga prevodite od slučaja do slučaja a zavisnosti od konkretnog konteksta.

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Note added at 17 mins (2013-06-29 11:45:44 GMT)
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Izvinjavam se treba: "a u zavisnosti od..."

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Note added at 20 hrs (2013-06-30 08:03:42 GMT)
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Radi se o sondiranju tla, buše se sonde, ima puno primera na internetu:
http://www.imenik.rs/info.php?id=15319
SONDIRANJE TLA I ANALIZA, GEOMEHANIČARSKI RADOVI, GEOLOŠKA ISPITIVANJA
http://www.kons.gov.ba/main.php?id_struct=6&lang=1&action=vi...
U cilju pronalaženja tragova fresko slikarstva, koje su zabilježili navedeni očevici, kada je 80-tih godina 20. vijeka vršeno sondiranje u porti crkve, izbušeno je i više desetina sondi u malterima starijeg dijela, ali nisu pronađeni tragovi fresaka.

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Note added at 21 hrs (2013-06-30 08:53:32 GMT)
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Evo i nastavka prethodnog teksta:
Međutim, prema tvrdnji Kajmakovića, ispitivanja strukture maltera jasno su pokazala da je crkva imala fresko dekoracije, što su potvrdili i nalazi u jednoj sondi u porti crkve. Na udaljenosti od 25 m, na zapadnoj strani hrama, na dubini od oko 2 m, pronađeni su fragmenti fresko slikarstva.

Jednostavno: "probe" nema isto značenje u svim rečenicama koje ste naveli ali se radi o raznim načinima sondiranja tla i raznim vrstama sondi.
Npr., u vašoj rečenici:
- Exploratory objects will be carried out by penetration probes into the depth of about 0,5 – 1,0 m, a diameter 30 mm. This preliminary specification of occurence of contaminated and uncontaminated materials could be carried out in any other suitable method/device.

Ovo je npr. jedna vrsta penetracionih sondi (penetration probes"):
http://www.hannainst.com/usa/prods2.cfm?id=038007&ProdCode=H...
Soil Test™ Direct Soil EC Tester

Replaceable 122 mm (4.5”) penetration probe
Automatic Temperature Compensation
Lightweight and portable

The HI 98331 Soil Test™ is a pocket tester specifically designed to directly measure soil conductivity and temperature. With a temperature sensor in the penetration probe, measurements are automatically temperature compensated.

Sledeće navodim samo kao ilustraciju terminologije, ne ulazeći u to za šta ova penetraciona sonda služi:
http://www.ekapija.com/dokumenti/testo_energetska_efikasnost...
Bezicna imeriziona / penetraciona sonda NTC

Mira Stepanovic
Serbia
Local time: 10:06
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in Serbo-CroatSerbo-Croat
PRO pts in category: 64
Notes to answerer
Asker: Da, ali šta je, recimo, sa rečenicom: "To determine the method of founding the objects (especially objects 1 and 2), a total of 12 excavated probes is proposed to reveal the base foundations.Their depth is assumed to be max 5 m." Čini mi se da je ovdje očigledno da se ne radi ni o jednom od ponudjena tri značenja, naročito jer se govori o dubini te "probe"...


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Nenad Radosavljević: Ili po potrebi sondiranje tj. sondaža (npr. "probe and sampling work" bi bilo "sondiranje i uzorkovanje")/Slažem se.Osnovni prevod je sonda,Pomislio sam da je možda primena reči "probe" na ovom mestu, baš ono što zbunjuje Anu. Zato sam joj ponudio prevod.
3 hrs
  -> Hvala, tačno, ali navedeno je više rečenica i mora se pažljivo birati prevod u svakom pojedinačnom kontekstu.

agree  Natasa Djurovic
4 days
  -> Hvala Nataša!
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