front tin

Serbo-Croat translation: zid ispod donje aut linije

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English term or phrase:front tin
Serbo-Croat translation:zid ispod donje aut linije
Entered by: Goran & Snežana Erdei

18:38 May 10, 2008
English to Serbo-Croat translations [PRO]
Sports / Fitness / Recreation
English term or phrase: front tin
Reč je o razlici u terenima za skvoš i reketbol. Nije nam jasno šta je front tin. Evo rečenice u kojoj se to pominje: "The racquetball court is fundamentally different from the squash court in that there is no front tin, it is longer and racquetball shots can be played off the celling."
Goran & Snežana Erdei
Serbia
Local time: 06:49
zid ispod donje aut linije
Explanation:
ili u vašem kontekstu: na prednjem zidu ne postoji prostor između poda i donje aut linije, ili: ne postoji donja aut linija.

Evo i jednog gorisnog linka:
http://www.squash.co.yu/pravila.php
Loptica je dobro vraćena, tj. udarac je dobar ukoliko se loptica vrati pravilno pre drugog udarca o pod, loptica udari prednji zid iznad donje aut linije, a ispod gornje aut linije bez prethodnog odbitka o protivnika

Taj deo zida ne mora uopšte biti od metala:

http://www.us-squash.org/howandwhere/squashglossary.html
TIN
Situated between the board and the floor covering the full width of the court and constructed in such a manner as to make a distinctive noise when struck by the ball.

http://www.victoriansquash.com.au/HowToPlay.htm
During the subsequent rally the ball must hit the wall between the out of court line and the bottom line (‘tin’).

Možda je naziv 'tin' zadržan kao npr. brojanje poena u tenisu (15, 30, 40, deuce - u početku su se okretale kazaljke na satu da bi se prikazivalo stanje). Moguće je da to nekad jeste bio deo opšiven metalom, a na ovoj slici se lepo može videti da taj deo zida nije od metala:
http://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slika:Squash_court.JPG
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Mira Stepanovic
Serbia
Local time: 06:49
Grading comment
Ipak smo se odlučili za ovaj odgovor. Smatramo da čitaocu neće mnogo značiti da li je taj prostor od metala ili nekog drugog materijala. Hvala vam!
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4zid ispod donje aut linije
Mira Stepanovic
4prednja limena ploča/traka
Aleksandar Medić


  

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zid ispod donje aut linije


Explanation:
ili u vašem kontekstu: na prednjem zidu ne postoji prostor između poda i donje aut linije, ili: ne postoji donja aut linija.

Evo i jednog gorisnog linka:
http://www.squash.co.yu/pravila.php
Loptica je dobro vraćena, tj. udarac je dobar ukoliko se loptica vrati pravilno pre drugog udarca o pod, loptica udari prednji zid iznad donje aut linije, a ispod gornje aut linije bez prethodnog odbitka o protivnika

Taj deo zida ne mora uopšte biti od metala:

http://www.us-squash.org/howandwhere/squashglossary.html
TIN
Situated between the board and the floor covering the full width of the court and constructed in such a manner as to make a distinctive noise when struck by the ball.

http://www.victoriansquash.com.au/HowToPlay.htm
During the subsequent rally the ball must hit the wall between the out of court line and the bottom line (‘tin’).

Možda je naziv 'tin' zadržan kao npr. brojanje poena u tenisu (15, 30, 40, deuce - u početku su se okretale kazaljke na satu da bi se prikazivalo stanje). Moguće je da to nekad jeste bio deo opšiven metalom, a na ovoj slici se lepo može videti da taj deo zida nije od metala:
http://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slika:Squash_court.JPG

Mira Stepanovic
Serbia
Local time: 06:49
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in Serbo-CroatSerbo-Croat
PRO pts in category: 48
Grading comment
Ipak smo se odlučili za ovaj odgovor. Smatramo da čitaocu neće mnogo značiti da li je taj prostor od metala ili nekog drugog materijala. Hvala vam!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Aleksandar Medić: Ja ne vidim da ploča nije od metala. Jedino što vidim jeste da nije u ravni s ostatkom zida, odnosno da malo štrči.
3 hrs
  -> hvala, sada sam videla vaše dodatno objašnjenje, na našem očigledno ozbiljnom sajtu je dat prevod za taj deo zida koji sam ponudila u rešenju.
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prednja limena ploča/traka


Explanation:
U pitanju je limena ploča/traka na dnu zida od kojeg se odbija loptica. Po pravilima skvoša, ona se ne sme pogoditi (loptica zid mora pogoditi uvek iznad lima), jer se tada gubi poen.

The floor and wall markings differ slightly from the 'International' court and the tin is lower, at 15 inches (38 cm) high. However, hardball squash was replaced by softball in America as the standard version of squash and has since almost completely died out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squash_(sport)

Pogledajte i ovu sliku, pa će vam sve biti jasno:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Squash_Court.svg

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ili:
limena ploča/traka na prednjem zidu

(imajući u vidu da postoje prednji i bočni [pravi] zid, a zadnji i drugi bočni su stakleni)

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Onih par puta što sam gledao skvoš na televiziji, sećam se da je dobro odzvanjalo kad loptica udari u taj deo i da se loptica brzo zaustavljala.

Evo linka:

The part that takes more getting used to is the “tin”, the service line, and the “out” line. The tin is, literally, a piece of metal that runs across the bottom of the front wall. It’s OB. This is good for two reasons: First, anything hit that low could never be returned. Second, it eliminates the problem in racquetball when you have to rely on the “squeak” to know if the ball hit the floor first or the wall first. When a ball hits the tin you know it.
http://ecmarchitect.com/archives/2006/03/12/661

Squash: Introduction to the Court and the Ball

At the bottom you will find a board manufactured from metal and known as the tin. The ball is deemed to be out when it strikes the tin, the material providing an audible indication of this.
http://www.racketgames.co.uk/Introductiontothecourtandthebal...

No, tonight, Pam was too hungry, and Isabelle too imprecise, and the French exquisite drop shots could find nothing but the cold metal of the tin.
http://www.squashsite.co.uk/national_league_4_fram.htm

tin
noun
5. Squash. telltale (def. 8).
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/tin

telltale
noun
8. Squash. a narrow piece of metal across the front wall of a court, parallel to and extending 17 inches (43.2 cm) above the base: a ball striking this is an out.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=telltale

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Note added at 16 hrs (2008-05-11 10:58:17 GMT)
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"tin," an out-of-play strip of metal, at the front which contrasts to the English (international) court which is 21.5 ft. wide with a 19 in. "tin" at the front (Wallburton no date).
http://www.geography.ccsu.edu/harmonj/atlas/squash.htm

U knjizi „Sportovi – vizuelna enciklopedija“ koju je nedavno izdao Kreativni centar, dve strane posvećene su skvošu i deo o kome govorimo je nazvan „ploča i lim“ uz opis „nisu deo površine za igru“ (strana 293).

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Note added at 16 hrs (2008-05-11 11:19:30 GMT)
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But the biggest difference is "the tin," a tiny metal border at the base of the front wall. It is 19 inches tall for squash amateurs and 17 inches tall for the pros. If an amateur's shot strikes it, he loses the serve. If a pro's shot hits it, he loses a point. Racquetball has no tin.
http://www.metrosquash.org/articles/Article-DailySouthtown01...

Space does not allow me to explain such squash terms as "nick" and "boast," or why there is a metal tin 19 inches high on the front court.
http://peoriadesignweb.com/squash/welcome/pj_star/pj_star.ht...

MEDIA INFORMATION PACKAGE
SQUASH

At the base of the front wall is a strip of metal 19” high running the complete width of the court. This is the “Tin” which serves the same role as the net in tennis. Any ball which hits the Tin is out of play.
http://www.canadagames.ca/Images/Games/2007 Media Packages/F...

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Most diabolical of all the features of a squash court is the telltale, or tin - a strip of metal 17 inches high on the front wall, beneath which shots may not be hit.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B0DE2D7103BF...

On the front wall of a Squash court there is a, ‘metal telltale’, commonly called, ‘the tin’ which is 19 inches high. The ball must always hit the front wall above the ‘tin’, however not directly, in other words it can hit the side wall or even the back wall before the front wall and above the ‘tin’. The noise of the ball hitting the tin is enough to prevent any arguments !!
http://www.racquetball-instruction.net/squash_leagues.php

Aleksandar Medić
Local time: 06:49
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian
PRO pts in category: 8
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