no order as to costs save for detailed assessment of the applicant's costs

Slovak translation: žiaden rozkaz vo veci nákladov okrem podrobného zhodnotenia nákladov navrhovateľa

14:04 Mar 27, 2013
English to Slovak translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law (general) / Final court order
English term or phrase: no order as to costs save for detailed assessment of the applicant's costs
"no order as to costs save for detailed assessment of the applicant's costs"

I would translate this as:
"Navrhovateľ uhradí vlastné, detailne stanovené finančné náklady, vyplývajúce zo súdneho konania".

Avšak mohlo by toto taktiež znamenať, že finančné náklady navrhovateľa budú financované cez bezplatnú právnu pomoc (legal aid), ak sú, podľa nariadenia, jeho náklady na preklad záverečného súdneho nariadenia financované cez bezplatnú právnu pomoc?
zola77 (X)
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Local time: 18:54
Slovak translation:žiaden rozkaz vo veci nákladov okrem podrobného zhodnotenia nákladov navrhovateľa
Explanation:
Bohužiaľ ste neuviedli celú vetu, preto prekladám čo najpresnejšie len Vaše zadanie "no order as to costs save for detailed assessment of the applicant's costs". Nerád by som špekuloval nad inou interpretáciou, lebo nepoznáme šírší kontext a táto interpretácia je najprsnejšia

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4 +1žiaden rozkaz vo veci nákladov okrem podrobného zhodnotenia nákladov navrhovateľa
Juro Sebestyen, A.B.I.E.S. s.r.o.
4súdne nariadenie neobsahuje žiadne rozhodnutie o súdnych trovách, ale nariaďuje podrobné posúdenie
Slavomir BELIS
3žiadny príkaz na náhradu trov súdneho konania okrem náhrady podrobne vyčíslených trov...
Rad Graban (X)
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No order as to costs save for a detailed assessment of the wife's publicy funded costs.
Stuart Hoskins
Detailed assesment
Rad Graban (X)

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žiadny príkaz na náhradu trov súdneho konania okrem náhrady podrobne vyčíslených trov...


Explanation:
vzniknutých navrhovateľovi.
Môj návrh po Stewartovom príspevku v diskusii. To "žiadny príkaz" sa asi dá preložiť aj inak/krajsie, záleží na vete, ktorá tým bodom predchadza.

Rad Graban (X)
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neutral  Juro Sebestyen, A.B.I.E.S. s.r.o.: Ale problem je prave v tom Rad, ze o nahrade trov sa v zadani nehovori. Zadanie hovori len o ich podrobnom zhodnoteni, alebo ako si uviedol Ty v diskusii, o ich "podrobnom vycisleni". Okrem toho vo veci platieb vydáva platobný "rozkaz", nie "príkaz"
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súdne nariadenie neobsahuje žiadne rozhodnutie o súdnych trovách, ale nariaďuje podrobné posúdenie


Explanation:
nákladov navrhovateľa

ešte raz vcelku

(Toto) Súdne nariadenie neobsahuje žiadne rozhodnutie o súdnych trovách, ale nariaďuje podrobné posúdenie nákladov navrhovateľa.

alebo možno

Súčasťou tohto súdneho nariadenia nie je žiadne rozhodnutie o súdnych trovách, ale nariaďuje podrobné posúdenie nákladov navrhovateľa.

Ako sama naznačujete v diskusii, táto anglická veta nevyjadruje nič o tom, kto má alebo nemá platiť, respektíve koľko by mal platiť alebo ako - lebo to všetko asi bude zhodnotené neskôr, keď budú posúdené náklady.

Slavomir BELIS
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žiaden rozkaz vo veci nákladov okrem podrobného zhodnotenia nákladov navrhovateľa


Explanation:
Bohužiaľ ste neuviedli celú vetu, preto prekladám čo najpresnejšie len Vaše zadanie "no order as to costs save for detailed assessment of the applicant's costs". Nerád by som špekuloval nad inou interpretáciou, lebo nepoznáme šírší kontext a táto interpretácia je najprsnejšia

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Juro Sebestyen, A.B.I.E.S. s.r.o.
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Local time: 19:54
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agree  Vladimír Hoffman: Hm, nemal by súd vydať skôr príkaz? Mimochodom, tá najprsnejšia interpretácia sa mi páči:-)))
1 hr
  -> Dakujem Vlado, kontroloval som to aj v pravnych textoch na webe a vo financnych veciach sud naozaj vydava platobny rozkaz
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Reference: No order as to costs save for a detailed assessment of the wife's publicy funded costs.

Reference information:
"This means that there is no order for costs to be recovered from the other side but the court is making an order that there be a detailed assessment carried out by the court if this is applicable.

A detailed assessment is where the solicitor prepares, unsurprisingly, a detailed bill of costs showing all work that has been carried out under the terms of the public funding certificate."


    Reference: http://www.wikivorce.com/divorce/Divorce-Advice/Legal-Aid/23...
Stuart Hoskins
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Reference: Detailed assesment

Reference information:
Detailed assessment

For more complex cases a process, formerly called a taxation of costs, now known as detailed assessment, is used. It is unrelated to "tax" in the sense of a method of raising government revenue. The successful party must file with the court a detailed breakdown of the costs and disbursements incurred, known as a bill of costs which sets out the successful party's claim. The bill is usually prepared by a law costs draftsman, whose skill is often as essential to successful litigation as that of a solicitor or barrister. An officer of the court, Costs Judge or District Judge will then assess the reasonableness of the costs with reference to a statutory schedule of limits of entitlements of costs, together with legal precedents, unless the costs can be agreed between the parties. The level of reduction can mean that the bill is reduced in some instances substantially, but in most cases at least 80% of the costs originally sought will be allowed. A court order for costs is enforceable as a debt against the unsuccessful party.[14]

Either party can appeal against a detailed assessment, to a Costs Judge or District Judge of the High Court if the assessment was made by a court officer, or by the usual routes of appeal if the assessment was made by a judge.


    Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Costs_%28English_law%29#Detaile...
Rad Graban (X)
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agree  Charles Stanford: Looks about right then
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