harbinger

Spanish translation: aposentador de camino

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English term or phrase:harbinger
Spanish translation:aposentador de camino
Entered by: Ana Juliá

09:27 May 14, 2012
English to Spanish translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Religion / ancient book about Christian doctrine
English term or phrase: harbinger
The Covenant of grace
[...]
Use three: Of exhortation. To such as are out of covenant, labour to get into covenant, and have God for your God. How glad would the old world have been of an ark! How industrious should we be to get within the ark of the covenant! Consider, (1.) The misery of such as live and die out of covenant with God. Such have none to go to in an hour of distress. When conscience accuses, when sickness approaches (which is but a ***harbinger*** to bespeak a lodging for death), then what will you do? Whither will you flee? Will you look to Christ for help? He is a mediator only for such as are in covenant. Oh, how will you be filled with horror and despair! and be as Saul, when he said, The Philistines make war against me, and the Lord is departed.' I Sam 28:85. Till you are in covenant with God, there is no mercy. The mercy-seat was placed upon the ark, and the mercy-seat was no larger than the ark; to show, that the mercy of God reaches no further than the covenant.
Ana Juliá
Spain
Local time: 06:08
aposentador de camino
Explanation:
Se juega aquí con el doble sentido de "harbinger". En inglés moderno significa un presagio o precursor. Precisamente, "harbinger of death", presagio de la muerte, es una expresión bastante frecuente. Pero su sentido original, ya obsoleto, era alguien que iba por delante del monarca y su séquito o de las tropas para conseguirle alojamiento: en español, un aposentador (concretamente, un aposentador de camino). Así se utiliza metafóricamente aquí: la enfermedad es como el aposentador que consigue alojamiento para la muerte.

"harbinger
1. a person or thing that announces or indicates the approach of something; forerunner
2. obsolete a person sent in advance of a royal party or army to obtain lodgings for them "
http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/harbinge...

"harbinger
late 15c., herbengar "one sent ahead to arrange lodgings" (for a monarch, an army, etc.), alteration of M.E. herberger "provider of shelter, innkeeper" (late 12c.), from O.Fr. herbergeor, from herbergier "provide lodging," from herber "lodging, shelter," from Frank. *heriberga "lodging, inn" (cf. O.S., O.H.G. heriberga "army shelter," from heri "army" + berga "shelter"); see harbor. Sense of "forerunner" is mid-16c. Intrusive -n- is 15c. (see messenger). As a verb, from 1640s (harbinge "to lodge" is late 15c.).
http://etymonline.com/?term=harbinger

"Antiguamente, se llamaba aposentador al que tenía por oficio dar aposento.
Se distinguían los siguientes tipos de aposentadores:
Aposentador de camino. El que en las jornadas que hacen las personas reales se adelantan para disponer su aposento y el de sus familias. [...]"
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aposentador

"aposentador de camino.
1. m. aposentador que en las jornadas que hacían las personas reales se adelantaba para disponer el aposentamiento de estas y el de sus familias."
http://buscon.rae.es/draeI/SrvltGUIBusUsual?TIPO_HTML=2&TIPO...
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Charles Davis
Spain
Local time: 06:08
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Gracias
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Summary of answers provided
4 +1heraldo/nuncio (de la muerte)
Marta Moreno Lobera
4aposentador de camino
Charles Davis
4agorero
claudia bagnardi
3presagio
Marta Moreno Lobera


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presagio


Explanation:
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anuncio, indicio, anticipo...

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... augurio...

Marta Moreno Lobera
Spain
Local time: 06:08
Native speaker of: Spanish
PRO pts in category: 12
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aposentador de camino


Explanation:
Se juega aquí con el doble sentido de "harbinger". En inglés moderno significa un presagio o precursor. Precisamente, "harbinger of death", presagio de la muerte, es una expresión bastante frecuente. Pero su sentido original, ya obsoleto, era alguien que iba por delante del monarca y su séquito o de las tropas para conseguirle alojamiento: en español, un aposentador (concretamente, un aposentador de camino). Así se utiliza metafóricamente aquí: la enfermedad es como el aposentador que consigue alojamiento para la muerte.

"harbinger
1. a person or thing that announces or indicates the approach of something; forerunner
2. obsolete a person sent in advance of a royal party or army to obtain lodgings for them "
http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/harbinge...

"harbinger
late 15c., herbengar "one sent ahead to arrange lodgings" (for a monarch, an army, etc.), alteration of M.E. herberger "provider of shelter, innkeeper" (late 12c.), from O.Fr. herbergeor, from herbergier "provide lodging," from herber "lodging, shelter," from Frank. *heriberga "lodging, inn" (cf. O.S., O.H.G. heriberga "army shelter," from heri "army" + berga "shelter"); see harbor. Sense of "forerunner" is mid-16c. Intrusive -n- is 15c. (see messenger). As a verb, from 1640s (harbinge "to lodge" is late 15c.).
http://etymonline.com/?term=harbinger

"Antiguamente, se llamaba aposentador al que tenía por oficio dar aposento.
Se distinguían los siguientes tipos de aposentadores:
Aposentador de camino. El que en las jornadas que hacen las personas reales se adelantan para disponer su aposento y el de sus familias. [...]"
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aposentador

"aposentador de camino.
1. m. aposentador que en las jornadas que hacían las personas reales se adelantaba para disponer el aposentamiento de estas y el de sus familias."
http://buscon.rae.es/draeI/SrvltGUIBusUsual?TIPO_HTML=2&TIPO...

Charles Davis
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Local time: 06:08
Native speaker of: English
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Gracias
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heraldo/nuncio (de la muerte)


Explanation:
Gracias por aclarar el sentido del término en este contexto.

"heraldo.
(Del fr. héraut).
1. m. mensajero (‖ persona que lleva un mensaje).
2. m. Aquello que anuncia algo que va a suceder. El heraldo de la muerte, de la paz.

nuncio.
(Del lat. nuntĭus).
1. m. Encargado de llevar aviso, noticia o encargo de una persona a otra, enviado a esta para tal efecto."

DRAE


Marta Moreno Lobera
Spain
Local time: 06:08
Native speaker of: Spanish
PRO pts in category: 12

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  eski: Hi Mercy: Many years ago, eski was a long-haired hippie playing rock n' roll in Toronto: I remember an undergtround newspaper that was called "The Harbinger" (Herald). Un abrazo. eski :))
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  -> Hola eski. Te agradezco mucho tu confirmación. Un saludo.//Nice story!
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agorero


Explanation:
Espero te ayude Ana.
Cariños
Claudia

claudia bagnardi
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