Court Marshal(l)

Turkish translation: Saray Başdanışmanı Yardımcısı

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English term or phrase:Court Marshal(l)
Turkish translation:Saray Başdanışmanı Yardımcısı
Entered by: Aziz Kural

06:51 Apr 29, 2020
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English term or phrase: Court Marshal(l)
The Court Marshals were considered subordinate to the Great Marshals.

Teşekkürler,
Aziz
Aziz Kural
Türkiye
Local time: 16:38
Saray Başdanışmanı Yardımcısı
Explanation:
"The Court Marshals were considered subordinate to the Great Marshals" için arama yaptığımızda şu sayfa çıkıyor:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incompatibilitas

Oradaki bilgilere gore:
"Commonwealth ministers were the equivalents of modern central-government officials. There were 10 officials (5 for Poland, 5 for Lithuania): a Great Crown Marshal, Great Lithuanian Marshal, Great Crown Chancellor, Great Lithuanian Chancellor, Crown Deputy Chancellor, Lithuanian Deputy Chancellor, Great Crown Treasurer, Great Lithuanian Treasurer, Court Crown Marshal and Court Lithuanian Marshal. The Court Marshals were considered subordinate to the Great Marshals. Lithuanian ministers, while enjoying the same powers as Crown ministers, were considered to be lower in the hierarchy. Hetmans were also considered "ministers" but had no seat in the Senat."

Sorudaki "marshal"ın aslı:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marszałek

Buna göre:
The Grand Marshal was often referred to as the first of the servants or first of the advisors (pierwszy minister in 16th century Polish) as he was superior to all other officials at the court, including the cup-bearers, sword-bearers, flag-bearers, writers, mathematicians and secretaries.
...The Grand marshal's deputy was named marszałek nadworny (marshal of the court), who was taking care for the court and the safety of the dames.

Muhtemelen Osmanlı sarayında da bu veya benzer bir göreve sahip olan biri vardır ama bu bağlama uyar mı, emin değilim. O nedenle "Saray Başdanışmanı Yardımcısı" karşılığını öneriyorum.
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Recep Kurt
Türkiye
Local time: 16:38
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Teşekkürler Sayın KURT... Selam, Aziz
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Summary of answers provided
5 -1Askeri Mahkemeler
Amir Akbarpour Reihani
3 +1Saray Başdanışmanı Yardımcısı
Recep Kurt
4Kıraliyet başdanışmanı
AJ Ablooglu
3 -1mahkeme subayı
ATIL KAYHAN


  

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11 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): -1
Askeri Mahkemeler


Explanation:
Askeri Mahkemeler, büyük mareşallere tabi düşünüldü.

Amir Akbarpour Reihani
Local time: 17:08
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in Persian (Farsi)Persian (Farsi)

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disagree  AJ Ablooglu: Nope: he is the chief of staff of the monarch's household
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14 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
court marshal(l)
mahkeme subayı


Explanation:
"Marshal" Türkiye'de olmadigi için tam Türkçe karsiligi da yok. Polis, subay, mareşal gibi karşiliklar kullanılabilir. Önemli olan tutarli olarak ayni terimi kullanmak. Örnegin, filmlerde uçaklara sivil olarak binen "air marshal" tabir edilen kişiler var, bunlarin görevi uçakta güvenliği sağlamak. Bizde bunun karsiligi maalesef yok. Aslinda bunlar ne polis, ne subay, ne de mareşal. Ben yine de subay diyorum.

ATIL KAYHAN
Türkiye
Local time: 16:38
Native speaker of: Native in TurkishTurkish
PRO pts in category: 32

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disagree  AJ Ablooglu: he is the chief of staff of the monarch's household
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59 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
court marshal(l)
Saray Başdanışmanı Yardımcısı


Explanation:
"The Court Marshals were considered subordinate to the Great Marshals" için arama yaptığımızda şu sayfa çıkıyor:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incompatibilitas

Oradaki bilgilere gore:
"Commonwealth ministers were the equivalents of modern central-government officials. There were 10 officials (5 for Poland, 5 for Lithuania): a Great Crown Marshal, Great Lithuanian Marshal, Great Crown Chancellor, Great Lithuanian Chancellor, Crown Deputy Chancellor, Lithuanian Deputy Chancellor, Great Crown Treasurer, Great Lithuanian Treasurer, Court Crown Marshal and Court Lithuanian Marshal. The Court Marshals were considered subordinate to the Great Marshals. Lithuanian ministers, while enjoying the same powers as Crown ministers, were considered to be lower in the hierarchy. Hetmans were also considered "ministers" but had no seat in the Senat."

Sorudaki "marshal"ın aslı:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marszałek

Buna göre:
The Grand Marshal was often referred to as the first of the servants or first of the advisors (pierwszy minister in 16th century Polish) as he was superior to all other officials at the court, including the cup-bearers, sword-bearers, flag-bearers, writers, mathematicians and secretaries.
...The Grand marshal's deputy was named marszałek nadworny (marshal of the court), who was taking care for the court and the safety of the dames.

Muhtemelen Osmanlı sarayında da bu veya benzer bir göreve sahip olan biri vardır ama bu bağlama uyar mı, emin değilim. O nedenle "Saray Başdanışmanı Yardımcısı" karşılığını öneriyorum.

Recep Kurt
Türkiye
Local time: 16:38
Native speaker of: Native in TurkishTurkish
PRO pts in category: 144
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Teşekkürler Sayın KURT... Selam, Aziz

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agree  Sarper Aman
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Kıraliyet başdanışmanı


Explanation:
He is the chief of staff of the monarch's palace and other domains. Often, the charge includes also the honorary privilege as chief of the protocol to announce formally the arrival of VIP guests at audiences, state dinners, and conferences in the monarch's premises.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshal?wprov=sfti1
AJ Ablooglu
Türkiye
Local time: 09:38
Native speaker of: Native in TurkishTurkish
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