periannual vs. perennial crops

12:32 Oct 1, 2007
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English language (monolingual) [PRO]
Science - Botany / Crops
English term or phrase: periannual vs. perennial crops
Is there any difference between these two terms or do they mean the same?
zsuzsa369 (X)
Local time: 16:55


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3 +7perennial
Patrick Fischer (X)
3 +6typo?
JohnGBell
3 +2same
Tony M


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15 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +6
typo?


Explanation:
My suspicion is that periannual is a misspelling and should read perennial

If you do a google search on periannual, you get very few hits and many of those that you do get are repetitions of the same article.

JohnGBell
Local time: 18:55
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Trudy Peters
4 mins

agree  Jack Doughty
18 mins

agree  Lubosh Hanuska
36 mins

agree  David Moore (X)
1 hr

agree  Alfa Trans (X)
2 hrs

neutral  Beatriz Galiano (X): I suppose the asker needs more than suspicions.
3 hrs
  -> Thank you. I have just checked and periannual is not in the full Oxford English Dictionary

agree  Kirill Semenov
4 hrs
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13 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +7
perennial


Explanation:
Ther are a lot of occurences for "periannual" on Google, but I have only found "perennial" lexicalised in several dictionaries : A plant lasting for three seasons or more.
I think "periannual" is just a wrong spelling.

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Note added at 22 mins (2007-10-01 12:55:18 GMT)
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OK, 319 occurences for "periannual".

Patrick Fischer (X)
Local time: 17:55
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in FrenchFrench

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Trudy Peters: That's the conclusion I reached
5 mins

agree  Claire Chapman: I checked my gardening books and not one lists periannual. I'm inclined to believe that periannual is a misspelling not a type
2 hrs

agree  T o b i a s: e.g. "Perennials for Dummies."
2 hrs

agree  Beatriz Galiano (X)
3 hrs

agree  Kirill Semenov
4 hrs

agree  tms30301 (X)
5 hrs

agree  Hungary GMK
14 days
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7 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
same


Explanation:
As far as I have been able to ascertain from a quick Google search, the two terms doe seem to mean exactly the same thing and to be used interchangeably, at least by amateurs.

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Note added at 6 hrs (2007-10-01 19:14:51 GMT)
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I really don't know how certain of our colleagues can be so dogmatic in their denial of the existence of a word.

Yes, I agree, it LOOKS like a miss-spelling, of course; but let's not forget that language is a living thing, and it takes ages for words to get into the big dicos like OED etc.

All I would say is that it is a PLAUSIBLE neologism, not just an innaccurate spelling — it is intersting that it crops up in sports contexts, which suggests it might well be an error that has been perpetuated.

HOWEVER, let us not forget Asker's original question: "Is the meaning the same?" — and I think the answer to that is pretty clearly YES — certainly, the INTENDED meaning!

As far as I am aware, Asker did NOT ask if 'periannual' exists as a word, nor if it was a spelling error — and I have not in my answer anywhere claimed that 'perinannual' is a valid or widely-used term — simply that in all the occurrences of it I have found (with the possible exception of one that is I think a typo for 'perianal'!), it certainly seems to be being used with the same meaning.

Tony M
France
Local time: 17:55
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Kim Metzger: But The New Shorter OED doesn't even list periannual. It gets 19 hits in Google./Correction 19 hits for dictionary periannual.
2 mins
  -> Thanks, Kim! No, I was surprised to note that, too.

disagree  David Moore (X): If it's an incorrectly-spelled word, I suggest you can't say it means the same as the word it was intended to be. The danger is that someone else will say: "Oh yes, periannual means the same as perennial - I saw it on Proz"....
1 hr
  -> But I don't actually believe it IS a spelling mistake; it seems to be rather a US neologism... / But I do hear what you say, I was (perhaps naïvely) simply answering the original question posed.

agree  Rachel Fell: surprised to hear the other day that Jaffa cake's only just gone into the OED (not that I like them, but they've been around for ages)
10 hrs
  -> Thanks, Rachel! Odd that, but I suppose with proper names... 'muffin-top' made it in surprisingly quickly, I see!

agree  juvera: It exists as an alternative to perennial. There are medical, geological (peri-annual cycle), botanical, organisational (Peri-annual Development Land Investment Programme, peri-annual meeting) references to it.
1 day 10 hrs
  -> Thanks, Juvera!
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