kvass

English translation: brewed or made is fine

18:46 May 25, 2005

English language (monolingual) [PRO]
Cooking / Culinary

English term or phrase: kvass

Kvass is a Russian beverage, the result of fermentation of yeasts and bread.

I seek for a proper English verb to say how kvass is made. Is it brewed? Or simply *made*. My target phrase (for a restaurant menu) is like "Kvass made following the recipe of 1843)

Kirill Semenov KudoZ activity Questions: 410 (none open) (1 closed without grading) Answers: 6119 Ukraine
Local time: 09:47

Selected answer:brewed or made is fine

Explanation:
"brewed" would help diners to identify the drink but "made" is fine too.
What isn't so great is "Kvass made following the recipe of 1843", which is a bit stilted.

"Kvass brewed to an 1843 recipe" or "Kvass made to an 1843 recipe" would be better.

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Note added at 10 mins (2005-05-25 18:56:17 GMT)
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In light of your note (by my comments above (\"brewed\" would help diners to identify the drink\") I meant that people who didn\'t know what Kvass was might think it was a food rather than a drink) I would go for \"brewed\". Why not? Brewed doesn\'t necessarily mean beer; we use \"brew\" loosely anyway and it sounds like it fits the definition.

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Note added at 13 mins (2005-05-25 18:59:28 GMT)
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This is just an example of the rather bizarre \"brewed to a...recipe\" construction:

http://www.pub-explorer.com/realale/adnamsbrewery.htm
\"Tally-Ho is unashamedly strong.
It’s actually a barley wine brewed to a nineteenth century recipe\"

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Note added at 18 mins (2005-05-25 19:04:42 GMT)
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How about...

kvass brewed to an 1843 monastic recipe

kvass made to an 1843 monks\' recipe

kvass made to a monks\' recipe from 1843
(don\'t like this one so much)

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Note added at 21 mins (2005-05-25 19:07:13 GMT)
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My suggestions above are in light of the fact that this is going in a menu; I\'ve tried to keep it short and sweet.

Selected response from:

awilliams
United Kingdom
Local time: 07:47

Grading comment

Thank you very much, everyone!

I'll use "kvass brewed to an 1843 monks' recipe". Thank you, Amy :)
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

SUMMARY OF ALL EXPLANATIONS PROVIDED

4 +3

either one, with slight variations

Tatiana Nero (X)

4 +2

brewed or made is fine

awilliams

a brew that's made

Ildiko Santana

quass - brewed

Johan Venter

Kvass is a Russian beverage brewed with the original 1843 recipe

airmailrpl

Kvass prepared as per an ancient recipe of 1843 invented by monks

Balasubramaniam L.

Discussion entries: 3

Answers

5 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

either one, with slight variations

Explanation:
you may say "kvass is brewed", or

"kvass (Russian brew) is made"

Either way, you give the readers of the menu the opportunity to understand the essence of the beverage which is a brew - a fermented yeast beverage.

Tatiana Nero (X)
Local time: 02:47
Native speaker of:

Russian

12 mins confidence:

a brew that's made

Explanation:
I would say "made." Below is a link to a very useful web site when it comes to brewing, where the following can be found about kvass:

"Baking whatever grains are available, most often rye, and producing a brew of low-to-medium alcoholic strength, occasionally flavored with fruits or herbs, traditionally make kvass. Most traditional recipes usually call for the use of day old bread and you will find many of these recipes here. The Russians regard Kvass as a unique drink but historically Kvass is mostly a poor mans form of beer."

Reference: http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/6670/brewkvas.htm

Ildiko Santana
United States
Local time: 23:47
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Hungarian,

English

2 mins confidence:

quass - brewed

Explanation:
If it is a beer it must be brewed.

Kvass - dark sour Russian beer made from fermented rye or barley (also quass)

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Note added at 11 mins (2005-05-25 18:57:06 GMT)
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Here is a page with a recipe for kvass. Here it is both \"made\" and \"brewed\"
http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/6670/brewkvas.htm

On this one Kvass is referred to as a brew

http://www.westonaprice.org/foodfeatures/kvass.htm

Under this word definition page Kvass is clasified under Brew, Brewage:

http://www.wordreference.com/definition/kvass

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Note added at 16 mins (2005-05-25 19:02:53 GMT)
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There are many others as well where Kvass is referred to as a brew, but I would have to agree with Amy that it would not make a real difference if you would refer to it as being \"brewed\" or \"made\".

Johan Venter
Czech Republic
Local time: 08:47
Works in field
Native speaker of: English

6 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

brewed or made is fine

awilliams
United Kingdom
Local time: 07:47
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4

Grading comment

Thank you very much, everyone!

I'll use "kvass brewed to an 1843 monks' recipe". Thank you, Amy :)

1 hr confidence:

Kvass is a Russian beverage brewed with the original 1843 recipe

Explanation:
Kvass is a Russian beverage brewed with the original 1843 recipe

I drink Kombucha that is brewed according to a 2000 year old recipe.

airmailrpl
Brazil
Local time: 03:47
Native speaker of:

English,

Portuguese

7 hrs confidence:

Kvass prepared as per an ancient recipe of 1843 invented by monks

Explanation:
Kvass prepared as per an ancient recipe of 1843 invented by monks.

Balasubramaniam L.
India
Local time: 12:17
Native speaker of:

Hindi

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