araignee

English translation: a flank of veal

20:59 Dec 19, 2008

English language (monolingual) [PRO]
Food & Drink

English term or phrase: araignee

what exactly is the araignee or spider cut of beef

pudser

Selected answer:a flank of veal

Explanation:
in German known as Kalbsnuss

Selected response from:

Ellen Kraus
Austria
Local time: 09:05

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perfect thanks
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SUMMARY OF ALL EXPLANATIONS PROVIDED

4 +5

Obturatorius/Obturator internus

Mark Nathan

Flank

rdg

4 -3

a flank of veal

Ellen Kraus

Summary of reference entries provided

a definition

Ken Cox

araignee - under cut of sirloin steak - additional info

Demi Ebrite

Discussion entries: 3

Answers

16 mins confidence:

Flank

Explanation:
May also be thick flank.

rdg
United States
Local time: 03:05
Native speaker of: English

37 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): -3

a flank of veal

Explanation:
in German known as Kalbsnuss

Ellen Kraus
Austria
Local time: 09:05
Native speaker of:

German
PRO pts in category: 4

Grading comment

perfect thanks

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

disagree

Polangmar: Is veal the same as beef? Or maybe beef is incorrect? || Yes, and the question is about beef, not veal (flank is in the previous answer, so I am not taking this part into account).

2 hrs

-> Beef is the culinary name for meat from bovines, especially domestic cattle ( cows). Veal is thus the meat of a young cow

disagree

Tony M: No, Asker quite specifically says 'beef', and this is certainly very common as a cut of beef (I've not personally encountered it as veal, though I assume it must also exist) / In EN the distinction is important: beef is NOT the same as veal.

2 hrs

-> pls. see my reply to Polangmar

disagree

Edith Kelly: Well a flank of beef is no Kalbsnuss but the piece you use to make "Rouladen", I have bought flank beef or veal umpteen times.

18 hrs

41 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +5

araignée Obturatorius/Obturator internus

Explanation:
is the Latin name. Obturator externus being the "fausse araignée".
There is no direct equivalent in English, because French and English butchers do not cut up cows in exactly the same way.

It is called a "spider" because of the spidery pattern of the muscle fibres.
There are only two spiders in a cow and they weigh around 500g each.
They are not as tender as fillet but have very good flavour.
They are referred to as one of the "morceaux du boucher" that he supposedly reserves for favoured customers.
They are located in the inside of the top of the thigh, so at a pinch could be referred to as "prime top round steak".

http://www.medisite.fr/medisite/Le-tende-de-tranche.html

http://www.newzealandbeef.org/data/dl/beef_illustrations.pdf

http://forums.egullet.org/index.php?showtopic=51102&pid=7124...

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Mark Nathan
France
Local time: 09:05
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 12

Reference comments

7 mins

Reference: a definition

Reference information:
araignee

Description: Beef cut. A muscle in an ox that lines the socket of the hock bone. The membrane which covers it is streaked with veins reminiscent of a spider’s web. A highly prized delicacy which is rarely for sale. Best eaten grilled. It is also a name for a weever, a marine fish.

http://www.whatamieating.com/araignee1.html

Ken Cox
Native speaker of:

English

6 hrs peer agreement (net): +1

Reference: araignee - under cut of sirloin steak - additional info

Reference information:
From "Away Magazine":

"Recently, however, the patron, Georges Neefs, has come up with a new idea which, true to form, he has been keen to put into practice both quickly and efficiently. He has decided to offer lovers of good quality red meat the opportunity to enjoy selected cuts which are rarely found on the menu these days: undercut of sirloin steak, the delicious beef araignée or spider (there are only two spiders, weighing around 300 grams each, on every tonne of beef), wild Spanish pig with black feet – la pata negra, not forgetting the famous Bavarian Siementhal beef, and the South American angus."

Reference: http://www.awaymagazine.be/templates/home.php?page=275

Demi Ebrite
United States
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 8

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