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the exilarch

English translation: the Exilarch

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English term or phrase:the exilarch
Selected answer:the Exilarch
Entered by: B D Finch

12:25 Apr 22, 2016
English language (monolingual) [PRO]
Art/Literary - History / History of Civilisations
English term or phrase: the exilarch
Is it possible to call "the exilarch " as "the monarchs in in exile?"

The exiled Jews who originated the Babylonian Talmud and a community of the earliest synagogues were led by a unique personage known as the Exilarch. The legendary Exilarch was revered as a direct descendent of the House of King David. Successive Persian regimes that governed Mesopotamia lionized this Jewish personality as nothing less than Jewish royalty. The many stories of Sassanid reverence for the Exilarch, legendary and real, invoke images of thrones, pomp, and procession through the streets, and even strategic marriage of Persian princesses into Exilarch families.

(source. Edwin Black, Farhud: The Roots of Arab-Nazi Alliance in the Holocaust)
MuratK.
Türkiye
Local time: 21:37
the Exilarch
Explanation:
I didn't understand why you would want to change this to "the monarchs in exile". It is clearly a very specific title. Given that that there is no reliable historical evidence that King David ever existed, or that there was a Jewish monarchy in Palestine, still less one headed by King David, it seems a bit of a leap to retitle this personage as a "monarch in exile". To head off any complaints with regard to the above, that is my own atheist Jewish view of the matter.

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Note added at 5 hrs (2016-04-22 18:17:53 GMT)
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Yes, though the question of there having been a Babylonian exile, rather than a Jewish or Hebrew community that was in Babylon because its members chose to go and live there, is also a matter of historical dispute.
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B D Finch
France
Local time: 20:37
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the Exilarch


Explanation:
I didn't understand why you would want to change this to "the monarchs in exile". It is clearly a very specific title. Given that that there is no reliable historical evidence that King David ever existed, or that there was a Jewish monarchy in Palestine, still less one headed by King David, it seems a bit of a leap to retitle this personage as a "monarch in exile". To head off any complaints with regard to the above, that is my own atheist Jewish view of the matter.

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Note added at 5 hrs (2016-04-22 18:17:53 GMT)
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Yes, though the question of there having been a Babylonian exile, rather than a Jewish or Hebrew community that was in Babylon because its members chose to go and live there, is also a matter of historical dispute.

B D Finch
France
Local time: 20:37
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 12
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks a lot. If I say "the Exilarch" then I solely refer to the Jews who were exiled in Babylonia. Am I right?


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Robert Forstag: The term refers to the head of the Babylonian Jewish community. Speculation about whether King David existed is really beside the point.
29 mins
  -> Thanks Robert. The "speculation" is relevant because if the personage really descended from a real King David of Israel, then "monarch in exile" might be a justifiable description.
agree  philgoddard: I don't see what this question is doing on ProZ.
2 hrs
  -> Thanks Phil. Why not? It is a terminology question.
agree  Yvonne Gallagher: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exilarch
2 hrs
  -> Thanks Gallagy
agree  MarinaM
4 hrs
  -> Thanks Marina
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