or otherwise electronically processed

English translation: your understanding is correct

18:20 Nov 15, 2012
English language (monolingual) [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law (general)
English term or phrase: or otherwise electronically processed
Hello everyone,

When you are an inmate of one of the institutions of the Prison and Probation Service, personal data about you will be collected and processed electronically.
Pursuant to the Act on Processing of Personal Data you can make use of the following rights:

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Right to demand correction, erasure or blocking of data which are inaccurate, misleading or otherwise electronically processed in contravention of legislation.

What does "or otherwise electronically processed in contravention of legislation" imply?

My understanding is as follows: there are data that should not be processed electronically and if they were processed electronically, it should be deemed as violation of the legislation (their processing contravenes the legislation)/

Thank you.
Mikhail Korolev
Local time: 17:19
Selected answer:your understanding is correct
Explanation:
yes!

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Note added at 3 mins (2012-11-15 18:23:39 GMT)
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contravention=should not have been done

... so the electronic processing was illegal

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Note added at 2 hrs (2012-11-15 20:35:39 GMT)
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I didn't mean, and I don't think you did either , that ALL electronic data is illegal or can be changed or deleted. It is just the data that is "inaccurate and misleading" (followed by) "or otherwise"= ...i.e. any OTHER thing that is wrong with the data ( maybe the way it was collected or the purpose it was collected for or how it was used...

Still think your basic understanding is right

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Note added at 19 hrs (2012-11-16 13:47:14 GMT)
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yes, in answer to omitting "otherwise". It is not absolutely necessary and meaning would be the same if it were omitted. However, it is more usual to include it (as meaning "in any other way that might have happened/been performed" ) I think. It is like covering all the angles or closing any loopholes

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Note added at 19 hrs (2012-11-16 13:49:52 GMT)
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or for "otherwise..."

"data (your sentence) that should not have been processed electronically in the first place".
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Yvonne Gallagher
Ireland
Local time: 15:19
Grading comment
Many thanks to everyone.
Thank you, gallagy2.
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3 +3your understanding is not quite correct
Tony M
4your understanding is correct
Yvonne Gallagher


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20 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
your understanding is not quite correct


Explanation:
I don't think you've quite hit the mark there, Asker.

It is clear that these data are already being processed electronically — it says so at the beginning.

I believe everything hangs here on the meaning of 'otherwise'; I think this needs to be understood in its historical, literal meaning of 'in another way'; so what they are saying is that the basic electronic handling of the data is OK, but if it is electronically processed in some other way, which would contravene the applicable laws, then you have a right to get your details deleted etc.

Tony M
France
Local time: 16:19
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 84

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Sarah Jane Webb
12 hrs
  -> Thanks, Sarah!

agree  Veronika McLaren
3 days 4 hrs
  -> Thanks, Veronika!

agree  Phong Le
3 days 6 hrs
  -> Thanks, Phong Le!
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2 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
your understanding is correct


Explanation:
yes!

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Note added at 3 mins (2012-11-15 18:23:39 GMT)
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contravention=should not have been done

... so the electronic processing was illegal

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Note added at 2 hrs (2012-11-15 20:35:39 GMT)
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I didn't mean, and I don't think you did either , that ALL electronic data is illegal or can be changed or deleted. It is just the data that is "inaccurate and misleading" (followed by) "or otherwise"= ...i.e. any OTHER thing that is wrong with the data ( maybe the way it was collected or the purpose it was collected for or how it was used...

Still think your basic understanding is right

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Note added at 19 hrs (2012-11-16 13:47:14 GMT)
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yes, in answer to omitting "otherwise". It is not absolutely necessary and meaning would be the same if it were omitted. However, it is more usual to include it (as meaning "in any other way that might have happened/been performed" ) I think. It is like covering all the angles or closing any loopholes

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Note added at 19 hrs (2012-11-16 13:49:52 GMT)
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or for "otherwise..."

"data (your sentence) that should not have been processed electronically in the first place".


Yvonne Gallagher
Ireland
Local time: 15:19
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 127
Grading comment
Many thanks to everyone.
Thank you, gallagy2.
Notes to answerer
Asker: Yes, you're right, I meant that some of the processed data could have been illegal because they should not have been processed electronically in the first place.

Asker: By the way, is it possible to leave out "otherwise" altogether while retaining the meaning?


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Tony M: I'm not quite so sure, G2...
14 mins
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