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meaning of a sentence

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14:09 Nov 24, 2012
English language (monolingual) [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law (general)
English term or phrase: meaning of a sentence
Hello everyone,

§ 52. Other provisions

Otherwise the provisions of the Execution of Sentences Act shall apply as far as it is compatible with decisions regarding restrictions or isolation pursuant to the Criminal Procedure Act, section 186 and 186 a. §§ 12, 15, 16, 20, 33, 35, 36 and 41 to 45 in the Execution of the Sentences Act do not apply.

The above sentence seems rather convoluted to me and though I understand each separate word I'm not sure I understand correctly the meaning of the whole sentence,

My understanding is as follows:

In other cases, the provisions of the Execution of Sentences Act shall apply as far as they (the provisions) are compatible with decisions regarding restrictions or isolation pursuant to section 186 and 186 a. §§ 12, 15, 16, 20, 33, 35, 36 of the Criminal Procedure Act and sections 41-45 of/in the Execution of the Sentences Act (in those other cases) do not apply.

The said Acts:

the Execution of Sentences Act
http://www.regjeringen.no/en/dep/jd/documents-and-publicatio...

Criminal Procedure Act
http://www.ub.uio.no/ujur/ulovdata/lov-19810522-025-eng.pdf

Thank you.
Mikhail Korolev
Local time: 11:37
Selected answer:Try this
Explanation:
Take care! I don't think you are interpreting this correctly at all!

Try this as a revised interpretation:

In other cases, the provisions of the Execution of Sentences Act shall apply as far as it (= the Act) is compatible with decisions regarding restrictions or isolation made under sections 186 and 186a of the Criminal Procedure Act.

New sentence:

§§ (= usually 'sections') 12, 15, 16, 20, 33, 35, 36 and 41–45 in the Execution of the Sentences Act do not apply.

The implication is perhaps that the rest of the EotSA is expected to be mainly compatible, but that these particular sections are not to be applied.

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You can of course check and see if each of these Acts does indeed have the corresponding sections, and whether or not the application / non-application of them in this way would seem to be logical.

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Note added at 2 days4 hrs (2012-11-26 18:40:58 GMT) Post-grading
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If you check the relevant Acts, the CPA does indeed have sections called 'sections', and there is a section 186 and 186a; neither of these, however, has subsections numbered as shown.

However, the EotSA has sections labels as '§', and does indeed have all the various sections listed.
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Tony M
France
Local time: 10:37
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Many thanks to everyone.
Thank you, Tony.
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SUMMARY OF ALL EXPLANATIONS PROVIDED
3 +1In other cases, sections 12, 15, 16 etc. in the act do not apply.
John Alphonse (X)
3 +1Try this
Tony M
5 -1suggestion
airmailrpl


  

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16 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
In other cases, sections 12, 15, 16 etc. in the act do not apply.


Explanation:
Although I'm not familiar with the symbol, it appears to start another sentence denoting non-applicable items.

John Alphonse (X)
United States
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agree  Jack Dunwell
19 hrs
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Try this


Explanation:
Take care! I don't think you are interpreting this correctly at all!

Try this as a revised interpretation:

In other cases, the provisions of the Execution of Sentences Act shall apply as far as it (= the Act) is compatible with decisions regarding restrictions or isolation made under sections 186 and 186a of the Criminal Procedure Act.

New sentence:

§§ (= usually 'sections') 12, 15, 16, 20, 33, 35, 36 and 41–45 in the Execution of the Sentences Act do not apply.

The implication is perhaps that the rest of the EotSA is expected to be mainly compatible, but that these particular sections are not to be applied.

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Note added at 3 hrs (2012-11-24 17:24:10 GMT)
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You can of course check and see if each of these Acts does indeed have the corresponding sections, and whether or not the application / non-application of them in this way would seem to be logical.

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 2 days4 hrs (2012-11-26 18:40:58 GMT) Post-grading
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If you check the relevant Acts, the CPA does indeed have sections called 'sections', and there is a section 186 and 186a; neither of these, however, has subsections numbered as shown.

However, the EotSA has sections labels as '§', and does indeed have all the various sections listed.

Tony M
France
Local time: 10:37
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 84
Grading comment
Many thanks to everyone.
Thank you, Tony.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Veronika McLaren
32 mins
  -> Thanks, Veronika!
agree  Jaime Oriard
37 mins
  -> Thanks, Jaime!
disagree  airmailrpl: I can't agree with this interpretation, it would appear that §§ 12, 15, 16, 20, 33, 35, 36 are paragraphs of section 186 a.
1 day 22 hrs
  -> In EN, the standard mark for a section is §; a paragraph is marked with ¶. In any case, reading the actual documents given as refs. by Asker makes it perfectly and unequivocally clear.
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15 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): -1
suggestion


Explanation:
Otherwise the provisions of the Execution of Sentences Act shall apply as far as it is compatible with decisions regarding restrictions or isolation pursuant to the Criminal Procedure Act, however section 186 and section 186 a. §§ 12, 15, 16, 20, 33, 35, 36 and 41 to 45 in the Execution of the Sentences Act do not apply.

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§§ symbol meaning law
Section sign
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The section sign (§, Unicode U+00A7, HTML entity §) is a typographical character used mainly to refer to a particular section of a document, such as a legal code.[1] It is also called "double S", "sectional symbol", signum sectiōnis.

In Europe, the § is called the paragraph symbol (or token, or sign).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_sign

airmailrpl
Brazil
Local time: 05:37
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in PortuguesePortuguese
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Tony M: Reading the actual documents given as refs. by Asker makes it perfectly and unequivocally clear.
33 mins
  -> and I do not agree with your interpretation also
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