papilla of the nipple

English translation: mammary papilla = nipple

11:51 Jan 30, 2013
English language (monolingual) [PRO]
Medical - Medical (general) / anatomy / oncology
English term or phrase: papilla of the nipple
Patients with nipple adenoma present with a palpable tumor of the papilla of the nipple with clear or serosanguineous nipple discharge.

What is the difference between papilla and the nipple? Is papilla only a part of the nipple or is there a mistake in the sentence (from a surgery textbook) and they mean the same?
R.S.
Local time: 09:40
Selected answer:mammary papilla = nipple
Explanation:
Strictly they are the same thing, as any medical dictionary will tell you. See the definitions on these pages:
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/nipple
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/mammary papi...

However, the nipple is strictly the mammary papilla; there are other structures in other parts of the body also called papilla. See here:
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/papilla

So although it is true that in context "a palpable tumor of the papilla", omitting "of the nipple", would have been understood to refer to the mammary papilla (nipple), it could in theory have referred to some other papilla; I presume the writer wanted to be absolutely precise and eliminate any possible ambiguity.

On the other hand, to have written simply "a palpable tumor of the nipple", omitting "papilla", would have produced a clumsy repetition of "nipple".

The words "nipple" and "papilla" are different in register; perhaps the writer was thinking of the former in organic terms, as it were, as a part of the body, and the latter simply as a physical structure.

Another factor might conceivably be that the writer wanted to make it quite clear (s)he was referring to the cylindrical protuberance properly called nipple or papilla, not to the surrounding circle called the areola; some people might understand the word "nipple" to mean the whole thing, though in medical terms the nipple is just the cylindrical protuberance.

So although it could be seen as a tautology, I don't think it's a mistake. It is a way of making the precise meaning absolutely clear.
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Charles Davis
Spain
Local time: 09:40
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Thank you very much, I think you have given a very plausible explanation of this tautology
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4 +1mammary papilla = nipple
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4papilloma - error in terminology
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papila mamaria


Explanation:
Creo que se refiere a la papila mamaria. La papila mamaria es el pezón, por tanto papila del pezón sería algo redundante.

Puedes ver su uso en inglés el siguiente link:
http://books.google.es/books?id=mTOhk3m06IoC&pg=PA180&dq=pap...

Y en español:
http://books.google.es/books?id=sTxqj1HncCMC&pg=PA318&dq=pap...

Eva RUIZ
Spain
Local time: 09:40
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
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mammary papilla = nipple


Explanation:
Strictly they are the same thing, as any medical dictionary will tell you. See the definitions on these pages:
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/nipple
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/mammary papi...

However, the nipple is strictly the mammary papilla; there are other structures in other parts of the body also called papilla. See here:
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/papilla

So although it is true that in context "a palpable tumor of the papilla", omitting "of the nipple", would have been understood to refer to the mammary papilla (nipple), it could in theory have referred to some other papilla; I presume the writer wanted to be absolutely precise and eliminate any possible ambiguity.

On the other hand, to have written simply "a palpable tumor of the nipple", omitting "papilla", would have produced a clumsy repetition of "nipple".

The words "nipple" and "papilla" are different in register; perhaps the writer was thinking of the former in organic terms, as it were, as a part of the body, and the latter simply as a physical structure.

Another factor might conceivably be that the writer wanted to make it quite clear (s)he was referring to the cylindrical protuberance properly called nipple or papilla, not to the surrounding circle called the areola; some people might understand the word "nipple" to mean the whole thing, though in medical terms the nipple is just the cylindrical protuberance.

So although it could be seen as a tautology, I don't think it's a mistake. It is a way of making the precise meaning absolutely clear.

Charles Davis
Spain
Local time: 09:40
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 78
Grading comment
Thank you very much, I think you have given a very plausible explanation of this tautology

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agree  Veronika McLaren
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  -> Thanks, Veronika :)
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papilloma - error in terminology


Explanation:
I think they are referring to a papilloma not a papilla -
see here for instance
http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/healthlibrary/conditions/brea...

What is intraductal papilloma?
An intraductal papilloma is a small, wart-like growth that projects into the breast ducts near the nipple. This causes a bloody or sticky discharge. In addition, any slight bump or bruise near the nipple can cause the papilloma to bleed. If the discharge becomes bothersome, the duct can be surgically removed, often without changing the appearance of the breast.

While single papillomas most often affect women nearing menopause, multiple intraductal papillomas -- which often occur in both breasts -- are more common in younger women. Multiple intraductal papillomas are more likely to be associated with a lump than with nipple discharge. Any papilloma associated with a lump is surgically removed.

and here:
Intraductal Papillomas - Breast Cancer - About.com
breastcancer.about.com › ... › Risk and Prevention › When It's Not Cancer
Feb 9, 2011 – If you have just one intraductal papilloma, and it is near or just beside a nipple, it may feel like a small lump. Solitary intraductal papillomas ...

Shera Lyn Parpia
Italy
Local time: 09:40
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Charles Davis: That's a very interesting idea, but a papilloma is itself a (non-malignant) tumor: can you have a tumor of a tumor? // Sure, but can you have a tumor of the papilloma of the nipple? That's what the ST says, according to this.
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  -> you can have a nipple papilloma, or papilloma of the nipple. See my second link / I think there is an error and it should read "a palpable tumor OR papilloma of the nipple" - that way the sentence makes sense.
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