"Heaven's white rose!"

English translation: Dante?

14:45 Apr 7, 2006
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English term or phrase: "Heaven's white rose!"
I would like to know the meaning of this expression since I was not able to find it in any dictionary. I suppose it refers to a biblical character or to a common expression such as "Heavens". I found this in a song by U2 called "Who's Gonna Ride your Wild Horses?" and I am craving to know the real meaning.
Here's the whole stanza:

"...Took a drive in the dirty rain, to a place where the wind calls your name
Under the trees, the river laughing at you and me
Halleluya! Heaven's white rose!
The doors you open, I just can't close..."
Daniela
Selected answer:Dante?
Explanation:
The only place I can think of hearing "heaven's white rose" or "white rose of heaven" is Dante's description of Paradise. Maybe the links below can help you? I think the song is emphasising purity, perfection etc.

Dante depicted Paradise as a White Rose or Mystic Rose in which God was at the center and saints surrounded Him. This is a good picture in that a white rose symbolizes purity, perfection and divine love which are all characteristics of God, so it is fitting that God place is throne in the center of a white rose. The white rose is a fitting word picture for God, but is just different from what people would imagine as the home or throne of God.
http://www.123helpme.com/assets/5068.html

White Rose. Cantos 30.106 to 32.138

The true home of all the blessed is with God in the Empyrean, a heaven of pure light beyond time and space. Dante sees the blessed systematically arranged in an immense white rose: like a holograph, a three-dimensional structure of light, the rose is formed from a ray of light reflected off the outer surface of the Primum Mobile (30.106-17). The queen of this white rose is the Virgin Mary, traditionally represented as a rose herself (see Par. 23.73-4). This celestial rose recalls large rose windows of Gothic cathedrals, many of which are dedicated to Mary. The image of the rose, often red, is also used to represent Christ or, in other contexts, earthly love.

http://danteworlds.laits.utexas.edu/paradiso/10empyrean.html...

Dante depicted Paradise as a White Rose or Mystic Rose in which God was at the center and saints surrounded Him. This is a good picture in that a white rose symbolizes purity, perfection and divine love which are all characteristics of God, so it is fitting that God place is throne in the center of a white rose. The white rose is a fitting word picture for God, but is just different from what people would imagine as the home or throne of God.
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Alison Jenner
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Local time: 19:12
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4I don't think it is particularly religious as such...
Orla Ryan
2Dante?
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Dante?


Explanation:
The only place I can think of hearing "heaven's white rose" or "white rose of heaven" is Dante's description of Paradise. Maybe the links below can help you? I think the song is emphasising purity, perfection etc.

Dante depicted Paradise as a White Rose or Mystic Rose in which God was at the center and saints surrounded Him. This is a good picture in that a white rose symbolizes purity, perfection and divine love which are all characteristics of God, so it is fitting that God place is throne in the center of a white rose. The white rose is a fitting word picture for God, but is just different from what people would imagine as the home or throne of God.
http://www.123helpme.com/assets/5068.html

White Rose. Cantos 30.106 to 32.138

The true home of all the blessed is with God in the Empyrean, a heaven of pure light beyond time and space. Dante sees the blessed systematically arranged in an immense white rose: like a holograph, a three-dimensional structure of light, the rose is formed from a ray of light reflected off the outer surface of the Primum Mobile (30.106-17). The queen of this white rose is the Virgin Mary, traditionally represented as a rose herself (see Par. 23.73-4). This celestial rose recalls large rose windows of Gothic cathedrals, many of which are dedicated to Mary. The image of the rose, often red, is also used to represent Christ or, in other contexts, earthly love.

http://danteworlds.laits.utexas.edu/paradiso/10empyrean.html...

Dante depicted Paradise as a White Rose or Mystic Rose in which God was at the center and saints surrounded Him. This is a good picture in that a white rose symbolizes purity, perfection and divine love which are all characteristics of God, so it is fitting that God place is throne in the center of a white rose. The white rose is a fitting word picture for God, but is just different from what people would imagine as the home or throne of God.
http://www.123helpme.com/assets/5068.html


Alison Jenner
Switzerland
Local time: 19:12
Native speaker of: English
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Heaven's white rose
I don't think it is particularly religious as such...


Explanation:
I think they're contrasting the white rose (meaning purity, goodness etc) against the darkness represented by the "dirty rain".... the woman who symbolises Heaven's White Rose represents a refuge from the big bad world outside.




    Reference: http://www.atu2.com/lyrics/colors.html
Orla Ryan
Ireland
Local time: 18:12
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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