June and the moon

English translation: Rhyming June with moon is a cliché for sentimental songs

20:12 Aug 15, 2010

English language (monolingual) [Non-PRO]
Art/Literary - Music / American songs of the first half of the 20th century

English term or phrase: June and the moon

"That was when the Russians were our friends," she said. "When they stopped the Germans at Stalingrad." Rolling down the car window, she rested her arm on the sill. Cold evening wind rushed in, mixing with the warm air from the heater. "When I was growing up," she said, "we sang all the different pop tunes. What was the first one? 'Bei Mir Bist Du Schön.' I was in grammar school. And 'The Lambeth Walk.' We actually believed the different lyrics. Do the kids believe them now?"

"No," he said.

"About June and the moon?"

"No."

"I remember one 11 always thought was beautiful. Do they ever play it anymore? 'I'll Build a Stairway to the Stars.' I liked that about the best. The stuff Jim plays on 'Club 17'. . . I can't get used to Mitch Miller's echo chamber. It's so bloated. And the styles, you can't tell if it's a woman or a man. Like Johnny Ray. And it's everything mixed together, Western and Negro jump and sweet sentimental . . a mishmash."

"Some aren't so bad," he said.

Alexander Alexandrov KudoZ activity Questions: 991 (2 open) (6 without valid answers) (49 closed without grading) Answers: 276 Russian Federation
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Selected answer:Rhyming June with moon is a cliché for sentimental songs

Explanation:
Do kids today believe the ideas of undying deep romantic love expressed in sentimental songs? No.

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Note added at 26 mins (2010-08-15 20:39:15 GMT)
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It stands for the month, and the rhyme of June with moon or honeymoon occurs in many songs.

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Note added at 11 hrs (2010-08-16 07:46:41 GMT)
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Though I must admit that the title of the song from Carousel "June is Bustin' Out All Over" always makes me think of a girl named June who has put on so much weight that her clothes are splitting at the seams...

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Jack Doughty
United Kingdom
Local time: 02:06

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Thank you, Jack!
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Rhyming June with moon is a cliché for sentimental songs

Jack Doughty

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By the light of the silvery moon....

Suzan Hamer

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june and the moon

Rhyming June with moon is a cliché for sentimental songs

Jack Doughty
United Kingdom
Local time: 02:06
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 40

Grading comment

Thank you, Jack!

Notes to answerer

Asker: So, it's not from a particular song? Does June stand for a month or the woman's name?

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27 mins peer agreement (net): +3

Reference: By the light of the silvery moon....

Reference information:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/By_the_Light_of_the_Silvery_Moo...

By the light, of the silvery moon,
I want to spoon,
To my honey I'll croon love's tune.
Honey moon, keep a-shinin' in June.
Your silv'ry beams will bring love's dreams,
We'll be cuddlin' soon,
By the silvery moon.

Suzan Hamer
Netherlands
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)

agree

athena22: Absolutely. From the early 50s or late 40s, I believe. Because of this song, June and moon did come to represent sentimental shmalzy songs to some extent--but this is the origin.

9 hrs

-> Thanks, Athena. A little earlier than 40s-50s... It was published just a little over a century ago, in 1909.

agree

Jack Doughty: Thank you, this is the one I was trying to think of as an example.//You're right, the film I was thinking of was made in 1942 and I would have been too young to have been interested in it then.

9 hrs

-> Thanks, Jack... I'm not so old that I can say I remember it from my youth.... just amazing what googling "june moon" yields... Although I must admit, I had "Shine on Harvest Moon" running through my mind...// Oh come on Jack, you can't be THAT old...

agree

Alison Sabedoria (X)

10 hrs

-> Thank you.

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