no page number

English translation: no page number (n.p.)

08:10 Oct 31, 2011
English language (monolingual) [PRO]
Art/Literary - Printing & Publishing / citation
English term or phrase: no page number
I'm translating some bibliographic references. A number of them have 'no page number' in the original language. I assume from this particular context that it may be because there are no page numbers, though I don't know for certain. What is the standard term for this in English citations?

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Lucy Phillips
United Kingdom
Local time: 01:46
Selected answer:no page number (n.p.)
Explanation:
This is indeed quite standard in bibliographical references when the passage cited occurs on an unnumbered page in the source. Publications do sometimes have pages that are unnumbered. In citations in English, one normally uses the abbreviation "n.p." in the place where a page number would normally have been given:

"When there are no page numbers available, use a section name if it is given in the text e.g. Jones (2008, sec. 1). Use abbreviations such as vol. (volume), vols (volumes), sec. (section), secs (sections). If no other identifying information is available use the abbreviation n.p. (no page)."
http://library.uws.edu.au/FILES/cite_Harvard.pdf

This abbreviation, "n.p.", is also used to signify "no publisher" in publication details, where the name of the publisher cannot be ascertained. Some people use "n.pag." for " no page number", but normally "n.p." is used; the position of the abbreviation in the citation means that there is no ambiguity.



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Note added at 27 mins (2011-10-31 08:38:20 GMT)
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Actually, the way to treat this will depend on the style required. The reference cited above refers to Harvard (author-date) style. The MLA style guide, which is standard in US academic publications, uses "n.pag.":

"When certain publishing information is missing from your citation, NoodleBib follows MLA style and inserts the correct abbreviation to explain its absence. If you have omitted this information by accident, edit your citation and add it to the correct field.
n.p. ("no publisher") means that the publisher's name is missing
n.p. ("no place") means the city of publication is missing
n.d. ("no date) means that the publication date is missing
n. pag ("no pagination") means that the book's pages are unnumbered
What do they mean in my citation?
N.p.: Harper, n.d.
...means that the publisher is Harper and Row, but neither the city of publication nor the year of publication is given.
New York: Harper, 2008. N. pag.
...means that the book is not paginated."
http://www.noodletools.com/helpdesk/kb/index.php?action=arti...

Internet sources (electronic publications) do not normally have page numbers and no page reference is expected, so in practice one normally puts nothing.
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Charles Davis
Spain
Local time: 02:46
Grading comment
that simple! Thanks for your comprehensive and helpful answer :)
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no page number (n.p.)


Explanation:
This is indeed quite standard in bibliographical references when the passage cited occurs on an unnumbered page in the source. Publications do sometimes have pages that are unnumbered. In citations in English, one normally uses the abbreviation "n.p." in the place where a page number would normally have been given:

"When there are no page numbers available, use a section name if it is given in the text e.g. Jones (2008, sec. 1). Use abbreviations such as vol. (volume), vols (volumes), sec. (section), secs (sections). If no other identifying information is available use the abbreviation n.p. (no page)."
http://library.uws.edu.au/FILES/cite_Harvard.pdf

This abbreviation, "n.p.", is also used to signify "no publisher" in publication details, where the name of the publisher cannot be ascertained. Some people use "n.pag." for " no page number", but normally "n.p." is used; the position of the abbreviation in the citation means that there is no ambiguity.



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Note added at 27 mins (2011-10-31 08:38:20 GMT)
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Actually, the way to treat this will depend on the style required. The reference cited above refers to Harvard (author-date) style. The MLA style guide, which is standard in US academic publications, uses "n.pag.":

"When certain publishing information is missing from your citation, NoodleBib follows MLA style and inserts the correct abbreviation to explain its absence. If you have omitted this information by accident, edit your citation and add it to the correct field.
n.p. ("no publisher") means that the publisher's name is missing
n.p. ("no place") means the city of publication is missing
n.d. ("no date) means that the publication date is missing
n. pag ("no pagination") means that the book's pages are unnumbered
What do they mean in my citation?
N.p.: Harper, n.d.
...means that the publisher is Harper and Row, but neither the city of publication nor the year of publication is given.
New York: Harper, 2008. N. pag.
...means that the book is not paginated."
http://www.noodletools.com/helpdesk/kb/index.php?action=arti...

Internet sources (electronic publications) do not normally have page numbers and no page reference is expected, so in practice one normally puts nothing.

Charles Davis
Spain
Local time: 02:46
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PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
that simple! Thanks for your comprehensive and helpful answer :)

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