predimensionner

English translation: (perform) initial dimensioning

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French term or phrase:predimensionner
English translation:(perform) initial dimensioning
Entered by: Ramon Somoza

20:12 Feb 27, 2004
French to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Construction / Civil Engineering / Aviation
French term or phrase: predimensionner
From a technical study about building a new national airport. From the preamble:
"Les objectifs de cette etude master plan ont ete de:
-...
-...
-presenter et predimensionner les installations principales de ce nouvel aeroport"

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Simon de Swardt
Local time: 01:09
initial dimensioning
Explanation:
Make a first estimation of the size of the main facilities of the airport.

This is a prerequisiste for the foreplanning - you cannot plan anything until you have estimated the size of the facilities.

For example, one critical parameter is the number of aircraft that are going to use the airport - simply the number of parking places for the aircraft defines the size of the aircraft apron and the size of the taxiways. Similarly, the number of passengers (and therefore the number of fingers on a certain terminal) force the terminal to have a certain size (because of the space you need to park two aircraft side by side). The type of aircraft is also important - it's not the same to park, say, an ATR, or an A-380!

The number of necessary runways (calculated on the basis of arriving/departing aircraft) and their length (depending on the type of aircraft) also determine critical dimensions for an airport...

Until these items have not been at least initially established, it is a waste of time to make any other plans...
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Ramon Somoza
Spain
Local time: 01:09
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thanks for the background
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Summary of answers provided
5 +1initial dimensioning
Ramon Somoza
5 +1predesign
Grzegorz Gryc
5preestimate the dimensions
Robert Frankling
3 +1presize/ give size estimate
RHELLER
3survey
Adam Thomson


  

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initial dimensioning


Explanation:
Make a first estimation of the size of the main facilities of the airport.

This is a prerequisiste for the foreplanning - you cannot plan anything until you have estimated the size of the facilities.

For example, one critical parameter is the number of aircraft that are going to use the airport - simply the number of parking places for the aircraft defines the size of the aircraft apron and the size of the taxiways. Similarly, the number of passengers (and therefore the number of fingers on a certain terminal) force the terminal to have a certain size (because of the space you need to park two aircraft side by side). The type of aircraft is also important - it's not the same to park, say, an ATR, or an A-380!

The number of necessary runways (calculated on the basis of arriving/departing aircraft) and their length (depending on the type of aircraft) also determine critical dimensions for an airport...

Until these items have not been at least initially established, it is a waste of time to make any other plans...


Ramon Somoza
Spain
Local time: 01:09
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 8
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thanks for the background

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agree  zaphod: or initial measuring.good refs. Cheers.
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predesign


Explanation:
dimensionnement préliminaire


    Reference: http://www.kcestructural.com/background.htm
    Reference: http://www.clc.tno.nl/projects/recent/bridge_deck.html
Grzegorz Gryc
Local time: 01:09
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Native speaker of: Polish
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agree  Tom Bishop
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presize/ give size estimate


Explanation:
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RHELLER
United States
Local time: 17:09
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Charlie Bavington: or "estimate the size of..." sounds a bit more natural to me :-)
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preestimate the dimensions


Explanation:
"learns to run preestimate and monthly estimate reports"



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Note added at 2004-02-28 00:29:09 (GMT)
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a \"preestimate\" comes at the early stages of planning


    hr.dop.wa.gov/lib/hrdr/specs/60000/66080.htm
Robert Frankling
Local time: 18:09
Native speaker of: English
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survey


Explanation:
The honourable profession of quantity surveyor comes to mind. Certainly they are needed in any major civil engineering project.

Maybe in this case this is about initial surveys - especially if we are still wondering how much traffic will use the airport.

Adam Thomson
Local time: 00:09
Native speaker of: English
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