pays de l'exception culturelle

English translation: the land of cultural exceptionalism (see discussion)

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French term or phrase:pays de l\'exception culturelle
English translation:the land of cultural exceptionalism (see discussion)
Entered by: Rimas Balsys

20:33 Sep 2, 2018
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French term or phrase: pays de l'exception culturelle
I don't mean to waste anyone's time, but I want to see if anyone has come up with a better, neater translation of "pays de l'exception culturelle" than "culturally exclusive country" (in my particular translation today referring specifically to France, but equally if you search the web it is used in reference to Quebec, Serbia, and other protective cultures.)
In my particular job today, it's an op-ed headed "LEÇONS AU PAYS DE L’EXCEPTION CULTURELLE: Pour la ministre de la Culture, la situation est claire : «Ces acteurs ont leur place dans notre écosystème audiovisuel dès lors qu'ils se conforment à nos règies.»"
Many thanks as always :-)
Rimas
Rimas Balsys
Local time: 09:03
the land of cultural exceptionalism
Explanation:
https://books.google.fr/books?isbn=0226509915
Tamara Chaplin - 2007 - ‎History
... the concern for French “cultural exceptionalism” that now dominates French ... to get the European Union to strengthen protections for the audiovisual domain ...

https://books.google.fr/books?isbn=1136701486
Jyotsna Kapur, ‎Keith B. Wagner - 2011 - ‎Art
French cultural exceptionalism, the refusal to consider culture as just another ... that might be seen to constitute a barrier to the free flow of audiovisual products.

https://www.gouvernement.fr/.../9-things-you-didn-t-know-abo...
Mar 3, 2015 - France is the land of WiFi. 2-ranking-France-digital- technologies France is also the land of WiFi. According to the statistics drawn up by the ...
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B D Finch
France
Local time: 17:03
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With thanks (see my discussion posting) :-)
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Summary of answers provided
4 +1[lessons in/from the] land of the cultural exception
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
4 +1the land of cultural exceptionalism
B D Finch
3 +1countries which give favored treatment to their own culture
Nicole Acher
5 -2Countries culturally exceptional
Mohamed Hosni
3country which introduced (supporting) cultural exemption
Kevin Oheix
4 -2Countries with a Cultural Exception policy
Ben Gaia
4 -3cultural exception country(-ies) / country(-ies) claiming the cultural exception
Daryo
3 -2country of cultural singularity
suzanneb111
Summary of reference entries provided
Country of cultural exception(alism)
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pays de l'exception culturelle
cultural exception country(-ies) / country(-ies) claiming the cultural exception


Explanation:
"cultural exception" functions as an adjective qualifying the country, thus:

cultural exception country(-ies)

or a bit longer version:

country(-ies) claiming the cultural exception

as "the cultural exception" in the trade of "cultural goods/services" is not falling from the sky on its own - it's got to be claimed by the country wanting to protect its own culture.


L'exception culturelle est un concept en droit international et en politique culturelle.

Il s'agit d'un ensemble de dispositions visant à faire de la culture une exception dans les traités internationaux, notamment auprès de l'Organisation mondiale du commerce (OMC). Ces dispositions ont pour but de spécifier que les États sont souverains et fondés à limiter le libre-échange de la culture sur le marché pour soutenir et promouvoir leurs propres artistes, véhicules et porte-parole de leur culture.

En pratique pour la mise en place, et en principe pour l'application de ces dispositions, elles sont soutenues par 31 Coalitions nationales dans les pays suivants : Allemagne, Argentine, Australie, Belgique, Bénin, Brésil, Burkina Faso, Cameroun, Canada, Chili, Colombie, Congo, Corée_du_Sud, Côte_d’Ivoire, Équateur, Espagne, France, Guinée, Hongrie, Irlande, Italie, Mali, Maroc, Mexique, Nouvelle-Zélande, Pérou, Sénégal, Slovaquie, Suisse, Togo, Uruguay. En mars 2007, à Montréal, ce sont maintenant 38 coalitions qui ont réaffirmé leur soutien à la diversité culturelle: Dotées d'un Comité international de liaison, le CIL-CDD, elles regroupent environ 400 organisations professionnelles de la culture de toutes les régions du monde.

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exception_culturelle


Cultural exception

Cultural exception (French: l’exception culturelle) is a political concept introduced by France in General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT) negotiations in 1993[1] to treat culture differently from other commercial products. In other words, its purpose is to consider cultural goods and services as exceptions in international treaties and agreements especially with the World Trade Organization (WTO). Its goals are to point out that States are sovereign as far as limitation of culture free trade is concerned in order to protect and promote their artists and other elements of their culture. Concretely, it can be seen through protectionist measures limiting the diffusion of foreign artistic work (quotas) or through subventions distributed according to the country cultural policy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_exception



Daryo
United Kingdom
Local time: 16:03
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Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 33

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Ben Gaia: This means nothing to the average English speaker, which is why the question was asked, and why I offered the word "Policy" to explain the term to English native speakers.// English speakers from other countries might see the UK as an alternative universe
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  -> well .... if adding "policy" is really going to make anything clearer to the average Joe, then I must have been living in some alternative universe the last 20 odd years, not in UK ... 'coz that's definitely NOT my impression.

disagree  writeaway: extremely unidiomatic English. claiming "the" cultural exception?? And what other countries do you have in mind?? "In my particular job today, it\'s an op-ed headed \"LEÇONS AU PAYS DE L’EXCEPTION CULTURELLE"
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  -> "what other countries do you have in mind?" have you read further than the translation??? there are some explanations with A LIST OF DOZENS OF COUNTRIES - hiding n plain sight, easy to find if you take the trouble to read the whole answer!

disagree  GILOU: Vous n'avez pas compris le sens en français apparemment
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pays de l\\\'exception culturelle
country of cultural singularity


Explanation:
tough one indeed...

suzanneb111
France
Local time: 17:03
Native speaker of: French

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Daryo: it is loosely related to the concept of "'exception culturelle", but it's NOT the same.
3 mins
  -> fair enough :)

disagree  Ben Gaia: Not the meaning in English of the phrase here which is a specific policy.
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Countries culturally exceptional


Explanation:
Suggestion

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Or, countries of the exception cultural.

Mohamed Hosni
Morocco
Local time: 16:03
Native speaker of: Native in ArabicArabic

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Daryo: wrong word order, wrong interpretation of the intended meaning of the ST: "l'exception culturelle" is not about claiming that "la culture française est exceptionnelle" it's about asking for "exceptions aux règles du commerce international".
56 mins
  -> Wrong understanding of the use of my suggested translation for this term as well.

disagree  Ben Gaia: Just not English.
1 hr
  -> Just not a right comment.
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pays de l\'exception culturelle
Countries with a Cultural Exception policy


Explanation:
Clunky in English but it helps to add the word "policy" because 1. it is a policy adopted by governments and 2. being a French idea it is ok to flesh out the meaning in English.

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Lessons for countries with Cultural Exception policies: the situation, according to the Minister of Culture, is clear.
"These players have a place in our audiovisual ecosystem, as long as they follow our regulations."

Ben Gaia
New Zealand
Local time: 05:03
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks very much Ben, and I'd certainly use it in running text, but it's too long-winded for the title of an op-ed


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Daryo: it was a political aim before becoming a policy - I don't see the need to add anything. // "Cultural exception" definitely has no meaning for the average SUN reader nor GATT, BTW- but somehow I don't think that they are the target audience here.
25 mins
  -> "Cultural exception" on its own has no real meaning in English.

disagree  Mohamed Hosni: No, c'est pas du tout ça.
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neutral  writeaway: please post the URL for your reference.
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country which introduced (supporting) cultural exemption


Explanation:
Exception culturelle / Cultural exemption

"Concept d’origine française puis européenne qui concerne l’absence d’engagement audiovisuel et la possibilité de dérogation dans les négociations sur les services".
http://www.ladocumentationfrancaise.fr/dossiers/omc/glossair...

"The concept of “cultural exemption" was introduced by France in the GATT negotiations in 1993. The goal is to protect and promote domestic artists and other elements of domestic culture, which in practice translates into protectionist measures limiting the diffusion of foreign artistic work"
https://epthinktank.eu/2014/08/29/ttip-and-the-cultural-exce...

"During the Uruguay Round, the European Union, led by France, had argued for a cultural exemption of audiovisual trade, while the United States had wanted audiovisual trade included in the GATT in order to guarantee its free trade".
https://www.law.upenn.edu/journals/jil/articles/volume17/iss...

L’ « exception culturelle » appliquée à l’audiovisuel.

"Les obligations de diffusion et d’investissement dans la production européenne que la
directive TSF introduit et que renforce le programme MEDIA, pour la fiction et le documentaire, sont assimilées à des « mesures protectionnistes » ..."
https://www.kinexpo.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Exception...

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or "the country which introduced the concept of cultural exemption"

Kevin Oheix
France
Local time: 17:03
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Nikki Scott-Despaigne: I agree with your general idea, but "exemption" is not an accurate rendering of the term "exception": an exception is a possible basis for an exemption, but they are not synonymous. Also, "which introduced" is factually correct, but not in the ST.
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[leçons au] pays de l'exception culturelle
[lessons in/from the] land of the cultural exception


Explanation:
France often describes itself with ironic pride that it is the nation of (the) cultural exception. It is a political concept introduced by France in the GATT negotiations, usually found in the following form: "the French cultural exception".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_exception It is usually expressed that way, with "French", although if it is obvious from the context, then another way around it will be needed.

From the source text, "au pays de" should be translated as "in the country of", but I think that "from may work better. You will know from the context of the section concerned.

As for the translation of "pays", I'd go with "land" rather than "country", as being more evocative.

A couple of other sources:
https://blogs.mediapart.fr/jean-jacques-birge/blog/070717/ex...

https://www.amazon.fr/French-Exception-Emmanuel-Macron-Extra...

https://www.amazon.fr/French-Exception-Emmanuel-Godin/dp/184...



Nikki Scott-Despaigne
Local time: 17:03
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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agree  Simon Mac: I think this would work very well, particularly as this is the title of an op-ed
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the land of cultural exceptionalism


Explanation:
https://books.google.fr/books?isbn=0226509915
Tamara Chaplin - 2007 - ‎History
... the concern for French “cultural exceptionalism” that now dominates French ... to get the European Union to strengthen protections for the audiovisual domain ...

https://books.google.fr/books?isbn=1136701486
Jyotsna Kapur, ‎Keith B. Wagner - 2011 - ‎Art
French cultural exceptionalism, the refusal to consider culture as just another ... that might be seen to constitute a barrier to the free flow of audiovisual products.

https://www.gouvernement.fr/.../9-things-you-didn-t-know-abo...
Mar 3, 2015 - France is the land of WiFi. 2-ranking-France-digital- technologies France is also the land of WiFi. According to the statistics drawn up by the ...

B D Finch
France
Local time: 17:03
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 123
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With thanks (see my discussion posting) :-)

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Nikki Scott-Despaigne: Ooo, I have just learnt a new word "exceptionalism" for the notion here.
1 day 42 mins
  -> Thanks Nikki. I hope it comes in useful! ;)
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countries which give favored treatment to their own culture


Explanation:
Found an interesting article which discusses France's "exception culturelle." There doesn't seem to be an equivalent term in English.


    https://www.ft.com/content/5e661a12-cf60-11e2-a050-00144feab7de
Nicole Acher
United States
Local time: 12:03
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks very much Nicole, and I'd certainly use it in running text, but I think it's too long-winded for the title of an op-ed...


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agree  Daryo
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Reference comments


11 hrs peer agreement (net): +3
Reference: Country of cultural exception(alism)

Reference information:
It seems to be widely translated as above. Note sure there is a more efficient way to express it in English.


    https://www.google.fr/search?q=french+cultural+exceptionalism&ie=&oe=
Trevino Translations (X)
France
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

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agree  writeaway: agree and also has the added advantage of sounding like English /country was changed to land and became the winning answer. credit where credit's due
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agree  ormiston: and with writeaway
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agree  Yvonne Gallagher: and with writeaway
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Reference: one hit......

Reference information:
European Distribution: Focus on France | Europa Distribution ...
www.europa-distribution.org/european-distribution-focus-on-...
Apr 6, 2016 - First on art-house, first on world cinema, country of cultural exception with supportive and potent public funds, France is renowned as the ...

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L'exception française - Charlemagne - The Economist
https://www.economist.com/europe/2013/06/15/lexception-franc...
Jun 15, 2013 - Europe's film-makers fear that Brussels will surrender the cultural exception that allows ... But French exceptionalism is a real constraint. Of the ...

writeaway
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Note to reference poster
Asker: Thanks, a great example of typically smooth wordcraft that The Economist is famous for, but I can't see any way of restructuring the title of my op-ed to use it. ---btw, whenever I'm asked by a non-native EN speaker how to improve their Englsih, I say read The Economist, online subscription costs peanuts and is a treasure trove of wonderful, succinct, rich, every-word-counts English

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