Engagement-Implication

19:34 Jun 25, 2014 

So if it's proactive management quasi-babblespeak for "say what you're going to do then do it", then pretty much any translation which half way gets the idea across should be fine?

16:02 Jun 25, 2014 

basically "Engagement-Implication" is management-speak twaddle: commitment, pro-activeness, take your pick. I'm somewhat mesmerised by the peripheral elements: "pénibilité" and "Starter"... what's that all about? Also where does the phrase in quotes end? before "Retour"? or later? ... actually this is fairly germane to an understanding of the phrase since we need to know what the name of these "actions" is...

21:49 Jun 24, 2014 

I agree that the actual meanings will be determined on the ground by whoever is responsible for meeting those conditions (fundamental points).

But the dash suggests that they are part of one and the same thing.

Followup actions (I guess there was an evaluation or analysis which came up with 13 points for followup, but these 13 points could be geared towards safety, higher profits, legal obligations ...??).

I guess first they will plan how to address the 13 points then they will proceed with actions to follow up on these points. But Commitment-Action or Planning-Action doesn't quite do it.

Probably the meaning will be heavily layered into organizational structures, institutional memory and other such abstract things.

19:35 Jun 24, 2014 

Don't you think that it will largely depend on the choices made for the slogan as it is a direct reference to them?

18:51 Jun 24, 2014 

Commitment versus action? I often enough see "engagement" as commitment, so "implication" could be more like actually do what they committed to. But I'm really not sure.

18:21 Jun 24, 2014 

OK. Given the style "je m'implique, je m'engage", which is quite "revendicateur", then I first thought something in that style would suit. Now I see that it is in reference to th campaign you indicate (which was impossible to guess and would have been helpful to have at the start ;-) ) then here's my input :
whatever you have gone with on the "je m'implique, je m'engage" needs to be adhered to, perhaps with the gerund. By the way, the terms are not in the same order in the extract you provide. Is that normal?

13:06 Jun 24, 2014 

les affiches « je m’implique, je m’engage »

11:17 Jun 24, 2014 

Hello Nikki. The domain is "Railways"

11:07 Jun 24, 2014 

Hello,
This is human resources, but in what domain?
What type of document is this? Drawn up by whom? Who are the target readers?
Is the term in inverted commas in the original?

Without this information it is difficult to propose anything useful other than make suggestions from among the standard dictionary word-for-word equivalents, among which you might consider:
- for "engagement" : commitment, undertaking (different meanings depending on the circumstances)
- for "implication" : involvement, implication (different meaning and nuances again, depending on further context which is lacking without the benefit of the document).

11:06 Jun 24, 2014 

shows up a lot on the www in this context

10:52 Jun 24, 2014 

"Involvement"?

10:07 Jun 24, 2014 

turned up so far. is there a special problem?