Indemnité d’activité partielle

English translation: Wage subsidy scheme (and/or top-up payment) for reduced activity

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French term or phrase:	Indemnité d’activité partielle
English translation:	Wage subsidy scheme (and/or top-up payment) for reduced activity
Entered by:	Yvonne Gallagher

18:12 Apr 23, 2020

French to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Human Resources

French term or phrase: Indemnité d’activité partielle

Hi everyone,

I think I understand how this system works, but cannot decide on a translation I'm happy with for 'indemnité'. Lawyers seem to be translating it as 'indemnity', but my gut instinct says it could simply be translated as 'payment under the partial activity scheme'.

No documents issued by the UK Government within the context of the COVID-19 job retention scheme use the word 'indemnity' or 'compensation'.

From my understanding, it's simply what a company pays its employees under the partial activity scheme, amounts it then gets reimbursed for by the French Government (this being the 'allocation').

Perhaps I'm missing something or overcomplicating things?

Cheers,
Nick

Nicholas Isard KudoZ activity Questions: 77 (10 open) (2 without valid answers) Answers: 0 Spain
Local time: 12:46

Wage subsidy scheme (and/or top-up payment) for reduced activity

Explanation:
I prefer "reduced employment" but have kept "reduced activity" i header as I presume it is spelled out in thesurrounding context what this refers to.

It sounds similar to this scheme Covid-19 Wage subsidy scheme here where an employer, with business impacted either fully orpartiallyby the panedmic) can continue to keep employees on its payroll while getting refunded under the scheme.
The employer is also encouraged to make additional payments to keep employees' income as close as possible to normal. These additional payments may be taxable.

https://www.revenue.ie/en/employing-people/documents/pmod-to...

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Glad to have helped.

Selected response from:

Yvonne Gallagher
Ireland
Local time: 11:46

Grading comment

Thanks everyone! I put the options to the client (a legal firm) and they went for this one. Thanks so much once again!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

Furlough (scheme) pay/ment

Adrian MM.

compensation for partial loss of activity

Daryo

Short-time compensation (US) / Short-time working payments (UK)

Helene_J

Wage subsidy scheme (and/or top-up payment) for reduced activity

Yvonne Gallagher

Partial premium Activity

Karine Gentil

wage/salary compensation for partial working/activity

Juan Arturo Blackmore Zerón

4 -1

partial unemployment benefits (for employees)

Francois Boye

3 -1

partial employment benefit (to employer)

Timothy Rake

Summary of reference entries provided

Indemnitè

Karine Gentil

Discussion entries: 3

Answers

31 mins confidence:

Partial premium Activity

Explanation:
Would need the whole sentence for indemnitè can also be premium

Karine Gentil
United States
Local time: 06:46
Meets criteria
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Haitian-Creole

14 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): -1

partial employment benefit (to employer)

Explanation:
check out the web site below. It seems to be something received BY the employer:

"L'indemnité d'activité partielle est une indemnité perçue par l'employeur. Elle permet de compenser totalement (SMIC net) ou partiellement la perte de salaire subie par le salarié en cas de réduction de l'horaire habituel de travail ou de fermeture de l'entreprise."

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I guess we need a little more context....is this going to employer to cover costs, or to the employee?

https://www.compta-online.com/comptabiliser-indemnite-activite-partielle-ao4381

Timothy Rake
United States
Local time: 03:46
Meets criteria
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 18

Notes to answerer

Asker: Hi Timothy, that is very confusing, as I also have the following sentence: "les indemnités d’activité partielle seront dans tous les cas soumises à une CSG au taux de 6,2%", referring to deductions on their payslip, which is what leads me to think this is referring to payment made to employees.

Asker: Hi Timothy, the French Government also says the following: "En cas de recours à l'activité partielle au sein d'une entreprise, les salariés touchés par une perte de salaire doivent être indemnisés par une indemnité (dispositif appelé aussi chômage partiel ou technique) versée par l'employeur".

1 hr confidence:

wage/salary compensation for partial working/activity

Explanation:
https://larevue.squirepattonboggs.com/france-and-covid-19-pa...

Juan Arturo Blackmore Zerón
Mexico
Local time: 05:46
Does not meet criteria
Works in field
Native speaker of: Spanish
PRO pts in category: 4

56 mins confidence:

Furlough (scheme) pay/ment

Explanation:
We could be looking at chômage partiel from another angle, though called 'unemployment benefit' by an English student contemporary of mine living in France.

Otherwise, pls. see the 'korttidspermittering' discussion on ProZ that features in the transblawg link on 'Kurzarbeit' (in AUT also: Kurzzeitarbeit to avoid a clash with the work done by the Chancellor by the name of Sebastian Kurz!

Although 'furlough' may beem Americanised, it is in fact on the OED definition a UK military and Christian missionary term and I - with recollection of the term used by my British military (and Merchant Navy) relatives - believe has 'come back home to GB',

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Hi, Nicholas / Nick: you could always insert ('furlough') in brackets > Partial Reduction of Acitivity ('Furlough') Scheme, though my tendency would - for BrE/ AmE/ CanE / OzE etc. - consumption would b the other way round, namely: Furlough 'Partial Reduction of Acitivity') Scheme /payments/.

I'd otherwise be wary of UK etc. lawyers' own 'translations' like 'obtention of credits' (SPA/ENG) for raising of loans. Indeed, one English QC translation client- who shall remain nameless - once sent my Central London translation office a glossary 'translating' le patrimoine on an African D.R.C. sovereign debt case (or dodge) as 'the patrimoine'-

However, here is not place for (many) other anecdotes on stubbornly ignorant Barristers, Solicitors and even Judges. ('Che Guevara was a famous Cuban lawyer').

Example sentence(s):

une perte de salaire doivent être indemnisés par une indemnité ( dispositif appelé aussi chômage partiel ou technique
When will furlough payments be made? Although furlough leave can be backdated to March 1, the portal employers must use to register your furloughed status was launched at 8am on April 20.

Reference: http://www.proz.com/personal-glossaries/entry/4304516-chômag...
Reference: http://transblawg.eu/2020/04/05/kurzarbeit-furlough/

Adrian MM.
Austria
Meets criteria
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 24

Notes to answerer

Asker: Hi Adrian and Tom, I completely agree with 'pay/ment'. However, do you think it might be better to stay a little closer to the French? I see almost every lawyer (including English ones) use 'partial activity scheme', which is described by one as: "All companies whose activity is reduced due to the COVID-19 and in particular, those that are subject to an obligation to close down in application of the Decree of 14 March 2020 (restaurants, coffees, malls, shops, etc.), are eligible for the Partial Reduction of Activity scheme."

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

Thomas Miles: Works for me (provided we are talking about the payment to the employees)

23 mins

-> Merci, shokran and thanks!The term of furlough is indeed all over the British & Irish press at the mo.

agree

EirTranslations

16 hrs

-> Merci, gracias, thanks and go raibh maith agat! It's - for me, at least - furlough into the last Irish thoroughbred furlong......

disagree

Daryo: nope, can't be. Small detail: the "Furlough scheme" is for people sent home to do NOTHING vs this French scheme is for people who STILL WORK, but reduced hours.

1 day 3 hrs

disagree

Francois Boye: Labor market institutions are not the same everywhere. Continental Europe does not have the same approach to unemployment as the USA, for example. In continental Europe, governments compensate workers for under-employment; hence there is no furlough.

1 day 6 hrs

7 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): -1

partial unemployment benefits (for employees)

Explanation:
https://www.employmentlawfirms.com/Eligible-for-Partial-Unem...

Francois Boye
United States
Local time: 06:46
Does not meet criteria
Native speaker of:

French
PRO pts in category: 39

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

erwan-l

46 mins

disagree

SafeTex: the whole point of the French scheme is that these workers are not sacked and so are not unemployed. This translation misses the whole point and "activité" becomes "unemployed".

9 hrs

-> Labor market institutions are not the same everywhere. In continental Europe, under-employment is likened to unemployment. Governments compensate under-employed workers. This is not done in the US, which is why there are 26 millions unemployed there.

disagree

Daryo: SafeTex got a valid point: these people are NOT "unemployed", they still work - albeit reduced hours // this ST is about a specific form of state aid during the COVID-19 situation, NOT about statistics illustrating "occulted / dissimulated (un)employment"

20 hrs

-> See my response to SafeTex//How can you dismiss the literature on partial unemployment?.

1 day 4 hrs confidence:

compensation for partial loss of activity

Explanation:
or more accurately:

compensation for loss of earnings due to partial loss of activity.

strictly speaking you get "compensated" for losses i.e. for loss of earnings (due to partial loss of activity), NOT for "working" - you get your salary for that, or a reduced salary if the hours get reduced. The "compensation" is for the "missing" earnings.

This is not really a "benefit" as would be a "benefit" under a welfare system; it's simply a "compensation for loss of earnings" resulting from a drop in worked hours (="activité partielle")

as per very good reference found by Juan Arturo Blackmore Zerón

https://larevue.squirepattonboggs.com/france-and-covid-19-pa...

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also

https://larevue.squirepattonboggs.com/france-and-covid-19-pa...

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https://www.service-public.fr/professionnels-entreprises/vos...

Daryo
United Kingdom
Local time: 11:46
Does not meet criteria
Native speaker of:

Serbian,

French
PRO pts in category: 16

4 days confidence:

Short-time compensation (US) / Short-time working payments (UK)

Explanation:
Hi,
I think "short-time compensation" (US) or "Short-time working payment"(UK) is the nearest equivalent, and since every country has its own system for implementing it I'm not sure you'll find an exact equivalent but may need to add a note to explain how it works in France (from your description, employers pay it to workers and then apply to the government for a refund).
I hope this helps!

Reference: http://https://oui.doleta.gov/unemploy/docs/stc_fact_sheet.p...
Reference: http://https://www.gov.uk/lay-offs-short-timeworking

Helene_J
Local time: 12:46
Does not meet criteria
Works in field
Native speaker of:

French

2 days 19 hrs confidence:

Wage subsidy scheme (and/or top-up payment) for reduced activity

Yvonne Gallagher
Ireland
Local time: 11:46
Meets criteria
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 52

Grading comment

Thanks everyone! I put the options to the client (a legal firm) and they went for this one. Thanks so much once again!

Reference comments

19 mins

Reference: Indemnitè

Reference information:
This can also mean premiums. It all depends on the context of the whole sentence of the document you are working on

Karine Gentil
United States
Meets criteria
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Haitian-Creole

Note to reference poster

Asker: Hi Karine, the context is the job retention scheme (activité partielle) the French Government has set up in response to COVID-19. The 'indemnité' is what employees receive in lieu of their salary. I guess in a sense it is compensation, but all reference material in English I have seen just opts for 'payment'.

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