des droits d’auteur ou de leurs ayants droit

English translation: copyright and its rightful owners

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French term or phrase:des droits d’auteur ou de leurs ayants droit
English translation:copyright and its rightful owners
Entered by: Wendy Cummings

08:51 Sep 16, 2009
French to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law: Patents, Trademarks, Copyright
French term or phrase: des droits d’auteur ou de leurs ayants droit
The whole phrase that I wanted to post is between **, but exceeds the 10-word limit. There seems to be some words missing and i can't piece together the noun clauses. As far as I'm aware, "droits d'auteur" are a type of intellectual property right, so perhaps this should be a list, but then "whose" "ayants-droit" is it referring to - the "auteur"?

Les droits mentionnés ci-dessus sont cédés par le Prestataire à compter de la réception de(s) l’œuvre(s) manifestée par la validation de la Fiche transmise par le Prestataire au Client, et ce, pour tout le temps que dureront *les droits de propriété intellectuelle légale des droits d’auteur ou de leurs ayants droit*, d’après les législations tant françaises qu’étrangères et les conventions internationales, actuelles et futures, y compris les prolongations éventuelles qui pourraient être apportées à cette durée.

Thanks.
Wendy Cummings
United Kingdom
Local time: 01:23
copyright and its rightful owners
Explanation:
for phrase: intellectual property rights of the copyright and its rightful owners.
Note: I do not think "author's" has a place in the translation--the concept is covered by the word "copyright".
"ou de leurs ayant droit": ou is translated by AND and not OR.

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Note added at 1 heure (2009-09-16 10:14:45 GMT)
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ref: for "ayant droit"- Dalloz Dico juridique.
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Michael Lotz
United States
Grading comment
Thanks Michael, your explanation makes sense.
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Summary of answers provided
3 +1..of the author's copyright or of copyright holders
Noni Gilbert Riley
4copyright and its rightful owners
Michael Lotz
4copyright's owner(s) or his/her (their) heirs
Euqinimod (X)
2(authors') copyrights and those of their successors (in title)
mimi 254


  

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...des droits d’auteur ou de leurs ayants droit
..of the author's copyright or of copyright holders


Explanation:
I imagine that the distinction is made because it is not always the author who keeps owenrship of the copyright. Intellectual property rights are seen as part of copyright. Propiété intellectuelle is sometimes translated just as copyright, but that would certainly blur your issue!

Noni Gilbert Riley
Spain
Local time: 02:23
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Francois Tresfort (X): Think this is best as copyright owners are not necesssarily the heirs, but could be anyone or entity who has legal ownership of an intellectual property.
22 hrs
  -> Thank you Francois.
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...des droits d’auteur ou de leurs ayants droit
(authors') copyrights and those of their successors (in title)


Explanation:
ie the successors in interest of authors

mimi 254
Local time: 01:23
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 10
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copyright and its rightful owners


Explanation:
for phrase: intellectual property rights of the copyright and its rightful owners.
Note: I do not think "author's" has a place in the translation--the concept is covered by the word "copyright".
"ou de leurs ayant droit": ou is translated by AND and not OR.

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Note added at 1 heure (2009-09-16 10:14:45 GMT)
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ref: for "ayant droit"- Dalloz Dico juridique.

Michael Lotz
United States
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 42
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Thanks Michael, your explanation makes sense.
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copyright's owner(s) or his/her (their) heirs


Explanation:
The whole sentence could read as follows : "for the same duration as protection of intellectual property rights is lawfully granted to the copyright's owner or his/her heirs".

Euqinimod (X)
Local time: 02:23
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
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