passe de roulage

English translation: running waste

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French term or phrase:passe de roulage
English translation:running waste
Entered by: Wendy Cummings

11:52 Feb 9, 2017
French to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Printing & Publishing
French term or phrase: passe de roulage
This is taken from a list of charges for a printing/DTP service:

Fourniture Papier (Mille de Feuillets)
A4 blanc 100 gr type couché Mat (pas de fonds perdus) y compris passe de roulage, calage, fonds perdus, stockage, etc...


I've tried, without success, to find a definition of this term. The only additional information I have gleaned is the existence of other "passes":

"Ajout d'une option dans les paramètres de passe pour que le pourcentage d'ajustement (sélection d'une minoration/
majoration depuis la Saisie technique) soit appliqué : à la passe de départ, à la passe de roulage (réglage par défaut) ou à la
passe totale"
Wendy Cummings
United Kingdom
Local time: 10:11
running waste
Explanation:
Based on these instances of “passe (de) roulage”

Passe calage : 100 feuilles
Passe roulage : 2 %

Passe calage : 2 000 tours
Passe roulage : 6 %
http://cache.media.education.gouv.fr/file/sujets_plp_ext_08/...

Passe de calage machine (en feuilles) 125
Passe roulage (en % par rapport au 1 % 2 % 1 % nombre de bonnes feuilles) 3 %
http://crdp.ac-bordeaux.fr/sujets/05/320/3220700/U52.pdf

La passe de calage pour l'intérieur sera de 75 feuilles et la passe globale de roulage sera de 2 %.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:on12KEg...

and then

Gâche : Autrement appelée passe, la gâche est la quantité de feuilles perdues pendant le calage, la mise en train et le roulage d'un imprimé.

[Example] Nombre de feuilles de gâche de roulage: 3 % de 30 000
http://www.scolibris.fr/rezolibris/fichier/basededonnee/26/f...

Par exemple en imprimerie, il y des gâches de roulage et des gâches de calage. La gâche de roulage sera une perte en % et la gâche de calage sera une perte en quantité.
http://www.pbdeveloppement.fr/cariboost_private/aide_magisof...

1. Make ready paper waste
2. Running paper waste
“Make ready paper waste”, or start up waste, is a fixed cost for the printer to prepare the press for printing your magazine. This is normally expressed as impressions or revolutions of the press.
The second allowance is for “running waste” and is normally expressed as a percentage of the print run.
As the print run gets longer the percentage running waste should fall.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:H6FfjL4...

Measures to determine the amount of wastage created through make-readies, running waste and unplanned overs were also established, these identified what the main contributors of waste were to the overall figure
Like most printers, Label Apeel’s materials are the largest direct cost to the business. Data obtained through this programme indicated that 14% of material was used on running waste, overs, plate and colour changes, while only 3% was lost on set-ups.
http://www.britishprint.com/filemanager_net/files/materials_...
Selected response from:

Alison MacG
United Kingdom
Local time: 10:11
Grading comment
Thanks, based on those references and the context, this seems to be more likely than Robin's suggestion, although I suspect that the terminology he refers to (passe de depart) is perhaps a more common way of referring to it.
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Summary of answers provided
4(the actual) print run
Jennifer Levey
3running waste
Alison MacG


  

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(the actual) print run


Explanation:
I'm not sure this is a "special" term in French, or that there's a special term in English either.

Referring first to Wendy's "additional information", the "passe de départ" a.k.a. simply "passe" (and a.k.a. "gâche") is the first few sheets of a print-run which are almost always spoiled in some way (often because the machine is accelerating, and will only produce clean prints when it reaches "cruising speed") and end up as waste paper (relates to the everyday French word "gâchís"). Then there's the "passe de roulage", which refers to the paper that is printed properly and ends up as part of the finished print job. And the "passe totale" is obviously the total of the first two.

See also:
http://www.dictionnairedelimprimerie.com/printandweb/p.html
Passe : dans l'imprimerie, la "passe" est le terme donné aux feuilles d'impression qui auront permis au conducteur de la presse de régler sa machine (repérage des couleurs entre elles, densité de l'encre, . Les feuilles de passe ne sont donc jamais livrées au client.
Dans l'impression ou le routage, la "passe" correspond donc à la gâche (du papier, de l'encre, des feuilles imprimées, etc.) que la production aura occasionnée.

Coming back to the question ...
In the ST, "calage" and "fonds perdus" are (one way or another) part of the "gâche" referred to above. Hence, in the ST (as in the above discussion) "passe de roulage" refers to the paper that actually contributes to the required (actual) print run.

Jennifer Levey
Chile
Local time: 07:11
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 36
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
running waste


Explanation:
Based on these instances of “passe (de) roulage”

Passe calage : 100 feuilles
Passe roulage : 2 %

Passe calage : 2 000 tours
Passe roulage : 6 %
http://cache.media.education.gouv.fr/file/sujets_plp_ext_08/...

Passe de calage machine (en feuilles) 125
Passe roulage (en % par rapport au 1 % 2 % 1 % nombre de bonnes feuilles) 3 %
http://crdp.ac-bordeaux.fr/sujets/05/320/3220700/U52.pdf

La passe de calage pour l'intérieur sera de 75 feuilles et la passe globale de roulage sera de 2 %.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:on12KEg...

and then

Gâche : Autrement appelée passe, la gâche est la quantité de feuilles perdues pendant le calage, la mise en train et le roulage d'un imprimé.

[Example] Nombre de feuilles de gâche de roulage: 3 % de 30 000
http://www.scolibris.fr/rezolibris/fichier/basededonnee/26/f...

Par exemple en imprimerie, il y des gâches de roulage et des gâches de calage. La gâche de roulage sera une perte en % et la gâche de calage sera une perte en quantité.
http://www.pbdeveloppement.fr/cariboost_private/aide_magisof...

1. Make ready paper waste
2. Running paper waste
“Make ready paper waste”, or start up waste, is a fixed cost for the printer to prepare the press for printing your magazine. This is normally expressed as impressions or revolutions of the press.
The second allowance is for “running waste” and is normally expressed as a percentage of the print run.
As the print run gets longer the percentage running waste should fall.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:H6FfjL4...

Measures to determine the amount of wastage created through make-readies, running waste and unplanned overs were also established, these identified what the main contributors of waste were to the overall figure
Like most printers, Label Apeel’s materials are the largest direct cost to the business. Data obtained through this programme indicated that 14% of material was used on running waste, overs, plate and colour changes, while only 3% was lost on set-ups.
http://www.britishprint.com/filemanager_net/files/materials_...


Alison MacG
United Kingdom
Local time: 10:11
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 12
Grading comment
Thanks, based on those references and the context, this seems to be more likely than Robin's suggestion, although I suspect that the terminology he refers to (passe de depart) is perhaps a more common way of referring to it.
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