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à la maille de l’origine-destination

English translation: at origin-destination level

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French term or phrase:à la maille de l’origine-destination
English translation:at origin-destination level
Entered by: Yves Barry Ben

14:00 Oct 19, 2019
French to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Transport / Transportation / Shipping
French term or phrase: à la maille de l’origine-destination
Context:

"Ce premier volume fournit non seulement une vision actualisée et toujours aussi détaillée du marché, mais il a de plus été enrichi de nouvelles informations, grâce aux données supplémentaires collectées et analysées par l’Autorité :

- une analyse plus détaillée de l’évolution des liaisons et des gares desservies ;
- un focus sur l’offre Intercités et sur les trains de nuit ;
- une analyse de la ponctualité ferroviaire à la maille de l’origine-destination."
Yves Barry Ben
France
Local time: 07:39
at origin-destination level
Explanation:
The Authority has collected data that analyses trains' expected versus actual arrival and departure times, possibly at stations where trains start from and their destinations...
Selected response from:

Pritha Bhatnagar
India
Local time: 11:09
Grading comment
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
3 +2at origin-destination level
Pritha Bhatnagar
4 -1at the level of [all] journeys between a departure and an arrival stations
Daryo
2rework the sentence
Wolf Draeger
3 -1for the departure to arrival network
B D Finch


  

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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
at origin-destination level


Explanation:
The Authority has collected data that analyses trains' expected versus actual arrival and departure times, possibly at stations where trains start from and their destinations...

Pritha Bhatnagar
India
Local time: 11:09
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in HindiHindi
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Tony M: I think this is the right idea, though I'm not quite sure about the way of expressing it...
5 hrs
  -> Thank you. In the Indian railways context, its referred to as the train "Starting point and End point"
agree  Yvonne Gallagher: at start-point and end-point stations
2 days 18 hrs
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5
rework the sentence


Explanation:
Not familiar with the expression à la maille de, but I tend to agree with Emma P. on a previous Kudoz question that it means something similar to "scale" or "scope". Perhaps "at the level of" or "in terms of"?

Wonder if it's being used here in a quasi-punny or voguish way.

My workaround is to translate une analyse de la ponctualité ferroviaire à la maille de l’origine-destination as one unit.

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Note added at 5 hrs (2019-10-19 19:20:03 GMT)
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Sorry, that other Kudoz question is here: https://www.proz.com/kudoz/french-to-english/business-commer...

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Note added at 6 hrs (2019-10-19 20:41:51 GMT)
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From the Transilien link: « Le ticket Origine/Destination vous permet d’effectuer un trajet entre 2 gares du réseau ferré Île-de-France. Une fois validé, il est valable pour un trajet continu dans une limite de 2 heures après la validation d’entrée. [...] Il est valable dans un sens ou dans l’autre. [...] Il est utilisable n’importe quel jour [...] »

Example sentence(s):
  • - a study of train punctuality between stations.
  • - an assessment of scheduled vs actual transit times between stations.

    Reference: http://www.transilien.com/fr/page-editoriale/le-ticket-origi...
Wolf Draeger
South Africa
Local time: 07:39
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 12

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Tony M: I suspect it actually means 'punctuality from origin to terminating destination' — i.e. disregrading punctuality at the intermediate stops (if any). The only universally-applicable statistic.
1 hr
  -> Could very well be, but these trips may be without stops (see my note).
neutral  Daryo: what exactly do you propose?
13 hrs
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18 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
at the level of [all] journeys between a departure and an arrival stations


Explanation:
i.e. the statistics would show the average punctuality for all journeys between a pair of "departure/arrival" stations, whatever route is taken between them, whatever is the number of stops in between (none, 1, 2 ...)... etc.

A bit more detailed information than the "average punctuality" for the whole network. (i.e. counting all and any journey on the network)

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Note added at 1 day 52 mins (2019-10-20 14:52:40 GMT)
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without seeing the actual data, that's what the language used woud imply.

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Note added at 1 day 52 mins (2019-10-20 14:53:32 GMT)
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... would imply.

Daryo
United Kingdom
Local time: 06:39
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 34

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  B D Finch: Grammar! It should be "station": singular. Also, "at the level of" doesn't work.// If you use indefinite articles, it must be singular; however, it would probably be better without them. There is also redundancy in "journeys".
7 hrs
  -> I hesitated between "station" and "stations" - which seems more logical because each time there are two stations involved (of departure/of arrival) OTOH "at the level of" is EXACTLY what is meant: level of details / of complexity / of granularity of data.
disagree  GILLES MEUNIER: toujours dans le contresens
3 days 19 hrs
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
for the departure to arrival network


Explanation:
Or: for the network covering the journey from departure to arrival.

medias.sncf.com › gares-et-connexions › publications
D'abord, pour revenir sur les catégories de gares, pour la maille de gares à moins de 1 million de voyageurs par an, il ne faut pas négliger une ...

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Note added at 1 day 1 hr (2019-10-20 15:19:26 GMT)
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Alternatively:
for the departure to arrival network section.

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Note added at 1 day 1 hr (2019-10-20 15:23:36 GMT)
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https://www.nationaltransport.ie › wp-content › uploads › 2018/08 › Natio...
The annual National Rail Census captures the number of individuals boarding and ..... Table 5: Daily Passenger Journeys by Network Section 2003 – 2017.

https://www.mssanz.org.au › modsim2017 › mendes
... for the rail network under the coordinating responsibility of the Hunter ..... was implemented focusing on the train speed in each network section,.

https://www.parliament.wa.gov.au › (Report+Lookup+by+Com+ID)
Oct 3, 2014 - freight rail network to trigger the formal involvement of the ERA in ...... capital upgrade to the network section in question, as well as an access ...

B D Finch
France
Local time: 07:39
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 144

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Daryo: even if there are 2 or more routes that can be taken between 2 stations, these routes just on their own wouldn't be called a "network".
14 hrs
  -> As you do have a point there, I have added an alternative suggestion above.
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