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passager hors correspondance

English translation: excluding transfers

GLOSSARY ENTRY (DERIVED FROM QUESTION BELOW)
French term or phrase:passager hors correspondance
English translation:excluding transfers
Entered by: Yves Barry Ben

13:10 Oct 20, 2019
French to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Transport / Transportation / Shipping / Railway report
French term or phrase: passager hors correspondance
Context:

" Distance moyenne parcourue par chaque passager hors correspondance.

Concernant l’offre de transport à grande vitesse, le nombre de circulations OUIGO a presque doublé en 2018 et la part de cette marque atteint 5,5 % du nombre de circulations TAGV domestiques en 2018 contre 2,9 % en 2017."
Yves Barry Ben
France
Local time: 10:56
excluding transfers
Explanation:
You have parsed this incorrectly:

"Distance moyenne parcourue par chaque passager/ hors correspondance."


Average distance travelled by each passenger, excluding transfers.
Selected response from:

B D Finch
France
Local time: 10:56
Grading comment
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +5excluding transfers
B D Finch
4 -1interline passenger
Peter Field
3 -1unlinked passengers
Marco Solinas
4 -2Average travelled distance per passenger - connected travel excluded
Daryo
3 -2passengers without connections
SafeTex


Discussion entries: 1





  

Answers


10 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
unlinked passengers


Explanation:
See, for example, https://www.bts.gov/archive/publications/transportation_stat...
"non-transfer passengers" is also used, but much less frequently.

Marco Solinas
Local time: 01:56
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in ItalianItalian
PRO pts in category: 16

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Daryo: no, that would mean excluding passengers who took another train before of after the journey.
5 hrs
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15 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
interline passenger


Explanation:
For example:
http://www.btb.termiumplus.gc.ca/tpv2alpha/alpha-fra.html?la...

Peter Field
United Kingdom
Local time: 09:56
Native speaker of: English

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  B D Finch: That's the exact opposite of the term required.
5 hrs
  -> Agreed: my apologies to all for this gaffe!
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +5
excluding transfers


Explanation:
You have parsed this incorrectly:

"Distance moyenne parcourue par chaque passager/ hors correspondance."


Average distance travelled by each passenger, excluding transfers.

B D Finch
France
Local time: 10:56
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 144

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Daryo: what they have in mind is not so much the "transfers" but the travels / journeys passengers get transferred to (or from)
6 mins
  -> That's what my answer means, i.e. each leg of the journey. (Note that the noun "travel" is uncountable.)
agree  philgoddard
1 hr
  -> Thanks phil
agree  Yolanda Broad
2 hrs
  -> Thanks Yolanda
agree  James A. Walsh: Been translating for SNCF over the last 10 years thru a French agency, and this would be my choice here, without a doubt!
3 hrs
  -> Thanks James, and for the endorsement!
agree  Stephanie Benoist
6 hrs
  -> Thanks Stephanie
agree  Eliza Hall
18 hrs
  -> Thanks Eliza
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -2
passengers without connections


Explanation:
Hello
We speak of connecting flights. Maybe a bit rarer with trains but I think it okay and is probably understandable in the context.

SafeTex
France
Local time: 10:56
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 52

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Tony M: This would sound rather risible! We do of course talk about 'connecting trains' — but it is the trains or the journeys that have 'connections', not the poor passengers! "Whose journeys do not involve conections"
9 mins
  -> okay then "without connecting trains"
neutral  Daryo: you should check what a dictionary of slang has to say about "being connected" - I very much doubt they had THAT kind of "connections" in mind ... // "connecting trains" yes, that could work.
22 mins
  -> okay then "without connecting trains"
disagree  Eliza Hall: BD Finch is correct.
18 hrs
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -2
Distance moyenne parcourue par chaque passager hors correspondance
Average travelled distance per passenger - connected travel excluded


Explanation:
it means that if a passenger takes another train once at destination, that continuation of the journey / connected travel on another train is not counted for the purpose of these statistics. (or if the passenger started the journey after arriving at the departure station by another connected train)

These statistics are only showing the trips on the monitored service - not the trip to get to the departure station, nor the continuations after the arrival station.


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Note added at 6 hrs (2019-10-20 19:13:26 GMT)
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here it seems that the statistics are about journeys on high-speed trains, excluding the connected travel after (or before) on "normal" trains.

Daryo
United Kingdom
Local time: 09:56
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 34

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  philgoddard: "Connected travel" makes no sense to me.
1 hr
  -> "Connected flight" makes no sense either? People in the airlines should be informed that they are using nonsense language ... // just because the "trade jargon" is unknown to you doesn't make it "nonsense" - it makes perfect sense to those who are "in".
disagree  GILLES MEUNIER: vous traduisez à l'envers.....
3 days 8 hrs
  -> piped to NULL device ...
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