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sac d\'embrouille

German translation: Katze im Sack

GLOSSARY ENTRY (DERIVED FROM QUESTION BELOW)
French term or phrase: sac d\\\'embrouille German translation: Katze im Sack Entered by: Andrea Wurth

13:12 Apr 12, 2019

French to German translations [PRO] Social Sciences - Idioms / Maxims / Sayings
French term or phrase: sac d\'embrouille Ich übersetze ein Buch, in dem jedes Kapitel mit einer Art Gedicht beginnt. In dem speziellen Kapitel geht es um die verschiedenen Arten von Taschen, natürlich alles Wortspiele im Französichen. Es gibt "Sac de sable du boxeur", "Sac à malice", "Sac de marin" und eben den "sac d'embrouille". Beim googeln habe ich gesehen, dass letztes für eine Sache verwendet wird, die etwas undurchsichtig ist. Meine Frage: Gibt es im Deutschen in diesem Kontext (undurchsichtige Sache) irgendeinen Ausdruck, der mit Tasche, Beutel, Sack oder einem sontigen Behältnis einhergeht? Vielen Dank für Eure Hilfe.	Andrea Wurth KudoZ activity Questions: 676 (5 open) (29 without valid answers) (36 closed without grading) Answers: 328 Germany Local time: 21:24
Katze im Sack Explanation: Eine undurchsichtige Sache, deren Beschaffenheit, Qualität etc. man von außen nicht erkennen kann	Selected response from: Iris Schmerda France Local time: 21:24
Grading comment Dankeschön. 4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided
5 +5	Katze im Sack	Iris Schmerda

Discussion entries: 10

Andrea Wurth Germany ASKER Danke allen 14:49 Apr 12, 2019  für die schnelle Hilfe und ebenfalls ein schönes Wochenende. Iris Schmerda France 14:46 Apr 12, 2019  Wünsche auch ein schönes Wochenende! Sascha Coridun Netherlands 14:42 Apr 12, 2019  Ja dann! Gleichfalls schönes Wochenende! Ulrike MacKay Germany :-) 14:08 Apr 12, 2019  Na dann passt's ja - und nochmals, ein schönes Wochenende, euch allen! Andrea Wurth Germany ASKER Ja, 14:04 Apr 12, 2019  Kapitel schon gelesen. Es geht um einen Schwarzmarkthändler, der seine Millionen im Jutesack abtransportiert und daher im Vorfeld die verschiedenen Arten von Taschen, Beuteln usw., die es gibt - ich sage ja - gespickt mit Wortspielen... Daher passt Katze im Sack sehr gut, zumal dies auch noch eine gelungene Anspielung ist. Ulrike MacKay Germany @Sascha - berechtigter Einwand - @Andrea 13:46 Apr 12, 2019  Kapitel schon gelesen? Geht es um verworrene/verwirrende Angelegenheiten (im Sinne von "komplizierte Verhältnisse") oder um nicht klar ersichtliche Gegebenheiten (i.S.v. "intransparente Sachlage" - undurchsichtig, wie du geschrieben hast)? Sascha Coridun Netherlands 13:45 Apr 12, 2019  Eigentlich "Kuddelmuddel". Evtl. passt "wie im Bienenkorb"... Sascha Coridun Netherlands 13:35 Apr 12, 2019  Katze im Sack passt m. E. nicht, der Begriff hier bezeichnet eher eine verworrene, komplizierte Angelegenheit. Vgl. embrouiller (''verwirren"). Ulrike MacKay Germany mit Iris :-) 13:32 Apr 12, 2019  und euch allen ein schönes Wochenende! Iris Schmerda France Die Katze im Sack 13:18 Apr 12, 2019  fällt mir dazu ein Automatic update in 00:

  

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Katze im Sack Explanation: Eine undurchsichtige Sache, deren Beschaffenheit, Qualität etc. man von außen nicht erkennen kann Example sentence(s): Die Katze im Sack kaufen Die Katze aus dem Sack lassen     https://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/Katze     https://www.redensarten-index.de/suche.php?suchbegriff=katze+im+sack&bool=relevanz&gawoe=an&suchspalte%5B%5D=rart_ou&suchspalte%5B%5D=rart_v	Iris Schmerda France Local time: 21:24 Native speaker of: German PRO pts in category: 8
Grading comment Dankeschön.
Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer) agree  Marion Hallouet 1 hr   -> Danke! agree  Steffen Walter 3 hrs   -> Dankeschön! agree  GiselaVigy 21 hrs   -> Danke :-) agree  Christel Zipfel 1 day 1 hr   -> Dankeschön :-) agree  Andrea Halbritter 3 days 5 hrs   -> Danke!
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