tangiert ... einen Ablagerungsstandort

English translation: is contiguous with [a landfill site]

14:34 Aug 20, 2020
German to English translations [PRO]
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German term or phrase: tangiert ... einen Ablagerungsstandort
"Die Projektparzelle tangiert gemäss Kataster der belasteten Standorte (KbS) des Kantons Zürich einen Ablagerungsstandort."

Talking about a construction site in Zurich. Does "tangiert" mean "borders on" here, or how would you translate it?

TIA.
jackiekiefer
English translation:is contiguous with [a landfill site]
Explanation:
"borders on" captures the meaning well.
"is contiguous with" is an elegant alternative.


next to or touching another, usually similar, thing:
Synonym: neighbouring (UK)
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/contiguo...



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Buildings on sites that have a contiguous boundary with a site with a volcanic feature mapped as an outstanding natural feature
https://unitaryplan.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/Images/Auckland ...

Adjacent to or contiguous with SSN site: the former Cheetham Saltworks…
https://www.water.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0020/529...

Does the project site contain, or is it substantially contiguous to, any buildings, archaeological site or district which is listed on the National or State Register of Historical Places?
https://www.dec.ny.gov/permits/91760.html
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Lancashireman
United Kingdom
Local time: 01:54
Grading comment
Thanks to everyone for their input! Have now seen a map and the site does indeed border on a landfill site.
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Summary of answers provided
4 +2is contiguous with [a landfill site]
Lancashireman
4encroaches on... a (former) waste disposal site
Andrew Bramhall
5 -1touches ... old deposit (site)
Johannes Gleim
4touches upon (a landfill site) [w. valid ref.]
Chris Pr
3 +1adjoins a (former) landfill site
Steffen Walter
3 -1straddles a waste disposal site
Michael Martin, MA


Discussion entries: 4





  

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22 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
encroaches on... a (former) waste disposal site


Explanation:
touches/borders on... a former waste disposal site;

Andrew Bramhall
United Kingdom
Local time: 01:54
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  philgoddard: I don't think "encroaches" is quite right, though.
1 hr
  -> There are certainly other options; thanks, Phil.

disagree  Johannes Gleim: Sorry, wrong interpretation. Cf. back-translation https://dict.leo.org/englisch-deutsch/encroach
5 hrs
  -> No comment.
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8 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
tangiert [... einen Ablagerungsstandort]
is contiguous with [a landfill site]


Explanation:
"borders on" captures the meaning well.
"is contiguous with" is an elegant alternative.


next to or touching another, usually similar, thing:
Synonym: neighbouring (UK)
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/contiguo...



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Note added at 10 hrs (2020-08-21 01:27:01 GMT)
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Buildings on sites that have a contiguous boundary with a site with a volcanic feature mapped as an outstanding natural feature
https://unitaryplan.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/Images/Auckland ...

Adjacent to or contiguous with SSN site: the former Cheetham Saltworks…
https://www.water.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0020/529...

Does the project site contain, or is it substantially contiguous to, any buildings, archaeological site or district which is listed on the National or State Register of Historical Places?
https://www.dec.ny.gov/permits/91760.html


Lancashireman
United Kingdom
Local time: 01:54
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 166
Grading comment
Thanks to everyone for their input! Have now seen a map and the site does indeed border on a landfill site.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Schtroumpf
12 hrs

agree  Kim Metzger
16 hrs

neutral  Johannes Gleim: "landfill site" is overinterpretated as the asked term relates only to dangerous sites. See Wikipedia. Nothing against "contiguous" // "iron ore" is irrelevant. And corrections are allowed, or not?
2 days 19 hrs
  -> Your original suggestion was 'deposition', which was totally wide of the mark. Your replacement - 'deposit' - is equally wrong. Try googling 'iron ore deposits'; you will find that these are natural resources waiting to be extracted/mined.
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12 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
straddles a waste disposal site


Explanation:
We need to take the verb register down a notch. "Tangieren" has a level of abstraction that doesn't work very well in English.

According to the Canton of Zurich Cadaster of Contaminated Sites (KbS), the project parcel straddles a waste disposal site.

Michael Martin, MA
United States
Local time: 20:54
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 24

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Andrew Bramhall: only if it had two legs...
3 hrs
  -> I think that comment doesn't even have one leg to stand on

disagree  Mair A-W (PhD): this... is not what straddle means
16 hrs
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18 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): -1
touches ... old deposit (site)


Explanation:
The term "deposition" is not really wrong but ambiguously. See below:

deposition noun (LAYER) [ U ]geologyspecialized
the formation of a layer of a substance such as soil or rock, or the substance that forms the layer
the process by which solid materials, such as earth and rock, are added to gradually by the action of wind or water, or the structure resulting from this process
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/depositi...

That’s why I do repost my answer with standard expression.

Der Begriff " Ablagerungsstandort" ist typisch für die Schweiz und bezeichnet

Eine Altablagerung (in der Schweiz rechtlich: Ablagerungsstandort) ist im Umweltschutz und in der Raumplanung eine Deponie, von der Gefahren für die Gesundheit des Menschen oder die Umwelt ausgehen.
Im Umweltrecht wird der Begriff Altlast meist weiter unterschieden in Altstandorte – Anlagen, in denen mit umweltgefährdenden Stoffen umgegangen wurde – und Altablagerungen: Das sind stillgelegte oder unbefugte Ablagerungen von Abfällen oder Geländeauffüllungen mit bedenklichen Materialien, bei denen durch die schädliche Bodenveränderungen, Grundwasserverschmutzung oder sonstige Gefahren für den Einzelnen oder die Allgemeinheit ausgehen.[1] Dabei ist in vielen Fällen nicht klar zu entscheiden, ob es sich um eine seinerzeit genehmigte Deponie oder eine ungenehmigte wilde Müllkippe handelt
:
Deutschland
Altablagerungen im Sinne von § 2 Abs. 5 Nr. 1 des Bundes-Bodenschutzgesetzes sind stillgelegte Abfallbeseitigungsanlagen sowie sonstige Grundstücke, auf denen Abfälle behandelt, gelagert oder abgelagert worden sind.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altablagerung

Zum Vergleich: Der beschriebene Uran-Tailings pond Moab/Utah, USA gehörte ebenfalls zu einer sandsteingebundenen tabularen Uranlagerstätte, „Atlas Mill Uranium deposit
:
Die hier zu ziehende Schlussfolgerung ist, dass ein Vergleich der radioaktiven Inventare der Tailings ponds der SDAG Wismut und der Ablagerungsstandorte für radioaktive Abfälle in einer Anlage gemäß § 9a AtG auch eine reale Risikobewertung der Standorte untereinander ermöglicht und insbesondere die Darstellungen für die Schachtanlage As-se II relativiert
https://azpdf.tips/endlagerung-aller-arten-von-radioaktiven-...

old deposit die Altablagerung Pl.: die Altablagerungen
abandoned waste disposal site [UMWELT] die Altablagerung Pl.: die Altablagerungen
brownfield [UMWELT] die Altablagerung Pl.: die Altablagerungen
contaminated deposit [UMWELT] die b>Altablagerung Pl.: die Altablagerungen
https://dict.leo.org/englisch-deutsch/Altablagerung

Altablagerungf / old deposit
(Gelbrich, Fachwörterbuch Architektur und Bauwesen)

Dies geschieht durch Nachweis der maximal möglichen Belastungen im Grundwasserleiter am Standort einer Deponie oder Altablagerung.
:
This is accomplished by detecting the maximum possible groundwater loads at the site of a landfill or old waste deposit.
https://www.muellundabfall.de/ce/bemessung-von-sicherungssys...

Der Stand der Erfassung von altlastverdächtigen Altablagerungen, Altstandorten und Altlasten (Kataster) in den Bundesländern wurde recherchiert, dokumentiert und bewertet.
:
The current status with respect to the recording of old depositssuspected of constituting contaminated sites, abandoned sites and contaminated sites (registers) in the German states was determined, documented and evaluated.
https://www.umweltbundesamt.de/sites/default/files/medien/pu...

tangieren touch
tangieren be tangent
tangieren be tangent to
https://de.pons.com/übersetzung/wyhlidal-automotive-technik-...

to be tangent to math. tangieren
to touch on [affect, bear on] tangieren [berühren]
https://www.dict.cc/?s=tangieren

RO, Tulcea : Danube Delta – Sulina, the place where the river touches the sky
https://1000placesandmemories.wordpress.com/2019/03/17/ro-tu...

The river touches the center of the town to make its outlet southward.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awetu_River

For much of its extent, Kriegsstraße forms a border between city districts on its northern and southern side. As a result, the street touches on or leads through the districts of Oststadt, Südstadt, Innenstadt-Ost, Innenstadt-West, Südweststadt and Weststadt.
https://en.ka.stadtwiki.net/Kriegsstraße

The parcel touches public road so you can building two houses and subdivide if desired.
http://guidetocostaricarealestate.com/guide-to-costa-rica-re...

Only a small piece of the lot touches the subdivision road providing the most privacy of any of the lot.
https://www.trogonheights.com/lot-8.html

The plot touches the main asphalt road. It is 300 meters away from taverna, coffee shop and market in Litsarda.
https://myrealcrete.gr/properties/6500-m2-plot-between-litsa...

Context translation:

"According to the Cadastre of Contaminated Sites (KbS) of the Canton of Zurich, the project plot touches an old deposit (site).

Johannes Gleim
Local time: 02:54
Works in field
Native speaker of: German
PRO pts in category: 51

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Steffen Walter: "Ablagerungsstandort" is the same as a "Deponie", which is why "landfill site" is the term to be used here, whereas "deposit" is a false friend no matter what (some) dictionaries say.
1 hr
  -> Sorry, I used the official terms, applied in Switzerland and Germany acc. references. You cannot correct official terms or its definition.
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8 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
touches upon (a landfill site) [w. valid ref.]


Explanation:
"...die Deponie an eine Seite tangiert..."

"...just touches the landfill site on one side..."

https://www.yumpu.com/de/document/read/8472226/project-thyss...

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Note added at 9 hrs (2020-08-20 23:58:42 GMT)
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I think a solid reference from a Thyssen-Krupp article might be preferred to 'magical thinking'...

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Note added at 19 hrs (2020-08-21 09:35:45 GMT)
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The term 'tangiert',at least in this context, is fully synonymous with 'berührt'...:
https://dict.leo.org/german-english/berührt

Chris Pr
United Kingdom
Local time: 01:54
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Lancashireman: Re solid reference from a Thyssen-Krupp article: "Another problem was able to be overcome by way of an advantageous design." Typical of a translation into EN by a GNS. Bilingual refs are only as reliable as the language skills of the original translator.
2 days 15 hrs
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20 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
tangiert einen Ablagerungsstandort
adjoins a (former) landfill site


Explanation:
Another suggestion to add to the variety (I'd also agree with the previous "is contiguous with" and "touches upon").

See references:

https://shropshire.gov.uk/committee-services/Data/South Plan... (p. 9; "The allocated site adjoins a landfill site, although the application site is located away from the boundary with the landfill.")

http://www.nnjpdu.org.uk/site/assets/files/1215/final_update... (p. 77; "Site also adjoins a landfill site.")

Steffen Walter
Germany
Local time: 02:54
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 210

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Schtroumpf
9 mins

disagree  Johannes Gleim: "landfill" is incorrect, as "Ablagerungsstandort" means a contained brownfield, disposal site or landfill, endangering the environnement as specified . Not all landfills are dangerous.
3 hrs

agree  Kim Metzger
4 hrs
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